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Hey everyone! I just joined here because I bought a Cat 922 to clear some land I have here in Florida and I have a few questions. I have a clutch oil pressure gauge in the cab and was wondering what the pressure should show and where do I add fluid to this. The 922 pushes good, but sometimes I feel like it does not have enough power to turn the tires when pushing a heavy load.

Also, the tires It has on it are 14.00 x 24 motor graders and I need to replace these. Are there any other options since it is a rear steer and does anyone have any used?

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Dan
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Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:58 AM
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Hi Dan,
welcome to the BB.
Your 922 should have 2 levers to the left side of the operators seat.
One is for speeds 1 and 2 within the poweshift trans.

The other behind it is for 2 or 4 wheel drive within the transfer case. These gears are high range 2 wheel drive for roading, and low range 4 wheel drive for loading.

Your pressure gauge in normal conditions should read around 220+-5 psi warm oil High Idle, 200 psi is possibly still OK. It should also read around 180 psi min at Low Idle. These tests are done in all gears but with the range trans/lever in Neutral. These figures are from my Oct. 1965 Cat School notes and may or may not be fully correct.
Low Idle in neutral and warm engine = 600+-10 rpm
High Idle in Neutral warm engine = 2535+-30 rpm
Full Load 2400 rpm. Whilst travelling, drag the bucket and apply brakes as needed in a high gear to stall the engine down to 2400 rpm and read boost pressure in inlet manifold at 19+-2.5 Inches of Mercury. or about 8.2 to 10.6 psi. Sorry my old rack chart does not have the Torque Converter Stall RPM's for these older machines.
Get back to us with your findings and we can take it from there to help get you going somewhat better, taking into consideration the figures above are for a tip top unit !!!!
Oh Yeah, the fill and dipstick for the trans should be under a trap door in the floor of the Op's compartment between the Op's legs.
Hope this helps.
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Eddie B.
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Mon, Mar 28, 2011 10:00 AM
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Reply to edb:
Hi Dan,
welcome to the BB.
Your 922 should have 2 levers to the left side of the operators seat.
One is for speeds 1 and 2 within the poweshift trans.

The other behind it is for 2 or 4 wheel drive within the transfer case. These gears are high range 2 wheel drive for roading, and low range 4 wheel drive for loading.

Your pressure gauge in normal conditions should read around 220+-5 psi warm oil High Idle, 200 psi is possibly still OK. It should also read around 180 psi min at Low Idle. These tests are done in all gears but with the range trans/lever in Neutral. These figures are from my Oct. 1965 Cat School notes and may or may not be fully correct.
Low Idle in neutral and warm engine = 600+-10 rpm
High Idle in Neutral warm engine = 2535+-30 rpm
Full Load 2400 rpm. Whilst travelling, drag the bucket and apply brakes as needed in a high gear to stall the engine down to 2400 rpm and read boost pressure in inlet manifold at 19+-2.5 Inches of Mercury. or about 8.2 to 10.6 psi. Sorry my old rack chart does not have the Torque Converter Stall RPM's for these older machines.
Get back to us with your findings and we can take it from there to help get you going somewhat better, taking into consideration the figures above are for a tip top unit !!!!
Oh Yeah, the fill and dipstick for the trans should be under a trap door in the floor of the Op's compartment between the Op's legs.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Thanks for the info on the pressure gauge! I dont have a tach on the machine so I will have to guess at it. I dont recall seeing the pressure gauge move at all from around 100. I did check the dipstick under the trap door and it is clean and full. So maybe either the pressure gauge is not working or there is a issue with the clutch pressure.
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Mon, Mar 28, 2011 6:47 PM
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Thanks for the info on the pressure gauge! I dont have a tach on the machine so I will have to guess at it. I dont recall seeing the pressure gauge move at all from around 100. I did check the dipstick under the trap door and it is clean and full. So maybe either the pressure gauge is not working or there is a issue with the clutch pressure.
These machines were desighned more for loading material than dozing and yes, they would hardly slip a tire due to the unmatched TC. I recall that I installed a matched set of TC parts so that the customer could pull off a load of cut silage. It would not pull as much as a farm tractor until we installed a matched set. This was to allow the engine to keep it's RPM's up to have good hydrulic response in original set up.
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Mon, Mar 28, 2011 11:43 PM
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These machines were desighned more for loading material than dozing and yes, they would hardly slip a tire due to the unmatched TC. I recall that I installed a matched set of TC parts so that the customer could pull off a load of cut silage. It would not pull as much as a farm tractor until we installed a matched set. This was to allow the engine to keep it's RPM's up to have good hydrulic response in original set up.
Hi Team,
Walter is corrct, the units are purposly designed to be low on drive power due to it being a loader and you do not want to start overloading the lift arms bucket linkage etc. These were first generation wheel loaders for Cat so I guess they were feeling their way somewhat. If I recall correctly they are generally set up with about 30% power for drive and 70% for bucket hydraulics to give good hydraulic force for breakout and speed and to not lug the engine at T/Conv stall in drive--leaves plenty of power and speed for the hydralics to do the heavy grunt work.
Other things to check for low power are :-
is full gov lever travel being achieved and maintained --full throttle at all times--if the platform structure is loose or the engine/trans mountings loose then they can move about and rob you of full time full throttle, especially when working on side or for and aft inclines, accerating/de-accelerating etc.
The loose platform/engine mounts can also partially disengage a direction and/or speed clutch and cause low clutch pressures. On an older unit the trans hyd spool detents can get soft and not engage gear fully, as will incorrectly adjusted control linkages.
With the engine shut off, remove the linkage pins at the trans spool valves and by hand move the spools to detented positions and see if the linkage can be connected without having to move the spool for the respective spool positions, and adjust as needed to get full engagement of the detents in the correct range/direction positions.
These machines were prone to have seized brake shoe pivots, cylinders etc. so a dragging brake/s is a possibility also.
MMmm you need to get a gauge of known accuracy to check the trans pressures in all gears. Obviously all clutches in good condition should read the same pressures.
Oversize tyres will also rob you of drive power. Sorry cannot find any specs for standard tyre sizes in my literature.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Tue, Mar 29, 2011 7:04 AM
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I think all of that class CAT loaders (922, 910, etc) have 15.5 x 25 tires.
next size up (944, 920 etc) 17.5 x 25 tires
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Tue, Mar 29, 2011 8:20 AM
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Reply to ccjersey:
I think all of that class CAT loaders (922, 910, etc) have 15.5 x 25 tires.
next size up (944, 920 etc) 17.5 x 25 tires
[quote="ccjersey"]I think all of that class CAT loaders (922, 910, etc) have 15.5 x 25 tires.
next size up (944, 920 etc) 17.5 x 25 tires[/quote]

The early 922A series had 1400x24 as standard, when the B series with the higher arched rear fender and longer wheelbase came out 15.5x25 was the standard with 1400x24 or 17.5x25 offered as an option. The 920 came standard with 15.5x25 and 17.5x25 optional. The 930 was standard 17.5x25 and 20.5x25 optional.
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Tue, Mar 29, 2011 2:26 PM
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[quote="ccjersey"]I think all of that class CAT loaders (922, 910, etc) have 15.5 x 25 tires.
next size up (944, 920 etc) 17.5 x 25 tires[/quote]

The early 922A series had 1400x24 as standard, when the B series with the higher arched rear fender and longer wheelbase came out 15.5x25 was the standard with 1400x24 or 17.5x25 offered as an option. The 920 came standard with 15.5x25 and 17.5x25 optional. The 930 was standard 17.5x25 and 20.5x25 optional.
Thanks for all the info. The tires I have are 14.00 x 24 which I just blew one out this weekend. The loader pushes good for what it is but, I will check your recomendations because it feels like there should be a little more power. This is a great website for info on these old machines.
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Thu, Mar 31, 2011 5:40 AM
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Thanks for all the info. The tires I have are 14.00 x 24 which I just blew one out this weekend. The loader pushes good for what it is but, I will check your recomendations because it feels like there should be a little more power. This is a great website for info on these old machines.
rosco, if you have a serial number we can tell if it's an A or B model...oh and pics are always welcome too.👍
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Thu, Mar 31, 2011 2:03 PM
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rosco, if you have a serial number we can tell if it's an A or B model...oh and pics are always welcome too.👍
Here are a couple of videos of the 922.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49kCYv3pT2k&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMA92UyxE1M&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkAFFhkzLg0&feature=player_detailpage
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Fri, Apr 1, 2011 6:25 PM
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Thanks for the videos!

What you seem to have there is an early B model 59A series machine that still used the turbocharged D320 engine. It looks to have a 3rd valve fitted too, so probably had a 4 in 1 or sidedump bucket on it at some stage.

Like the other guys said, they aren't really the best machine for pushing, but from your vids it looks to be operating normally. They won't push much in 2nd gear and will heat the converter up pretty quick if you do, especially if the cooler is at all clogged.

The best way to get an accurate check of the transmission oil level is to park it on level ground when it's hot with the engine running and leave it for a couple of minutes before checking the dipstick (with engine running). If you check it as soon as you pull up it won't give an accurate reading.

It's a nice looking old machine, pity the guy did that to the cab.
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