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catmandan
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Hi Everyone, I have a 1930, 30 that I restored a number of years ago. It has always drove and steered fine. I took it out to bring to a show last week and it seems something in the clutch or steering clutch's is stuck. If I put it in gear and let the clutch out it bogs the engine down and won't move. If I release the left steering clutch it goes along fine, even if I put the steering clutch back in. I will not roll freely and stopping and starting are real jerky, as well as steering. I have removed the top transmission cover. I can not see anything that is real evident to cause a problem. Any ideas. I will appreciate your comments. Thanks. Dan
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Fri, Aug 2, 2013 4:39 AM
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check the final drive pinions, this is a common failure on the thirtys, remove the small 3 bolt cover under the sprocket, remove the bearing and take a look at the gears and check condition of the bearing, the bearing comes out easy by threading a 1/2 inch bolt in the end and screwing it in, the bolt will push against the pinion and push the bearing out. if you search my post you will find more 30 final drive info.
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Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:13 AM
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Sounds to me like you have some track rollers that are not turning. the tracks are not on the rollers or are

dragging on something. Jon
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Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:15 AM
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Reply to Jon:
Sounds to me like you have some track rollers that are not turning. the tracks are not on the rollers or are

dragging on something. Jon
I know nothing about the gas cats,but if the steering clutches and brakes are the same setup as the diesels make sure the brake lining has not rusted to the drum.Had this on a 9u D6 have rolled them around with a small wheel tractor a number of times.What a dead one I wanted moved and would not roll so put another 9u on the cable and it would pivot but the side would not brake loose.Didn't think in 8 or 9 months the brake could rust that much.I need in the steering clutches any way so pulled the fuel and that was the problem.
Ray
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Sat, Aug 3, 2013 2:42 AM
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Reply to Steve A:
check the final drive pinions, this is a common failure on the thirtys, remove the small 3 bolt cover under the sprocket, remove the bearing and take a look at the gears and check condition of the bearing, the bearing comes out easy by threading a 1/2 inch bolt in the end and screwing it in, the bolt will push against the pinion and push the bearing out. if you search my post you will find more 30 final drive info.


Thanks, Steve,
I will have time this week-end to work on my 30. I will take your advise and check the final drive pinions.
Dan.
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Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:49 AM
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Reply to Jon:
Sounds to me like you have some track rollers that are not turning. the tracks are not on the rollers or are

dragging on something. Jon
[quote="Jon"]Sounds to me like you have some track rollers that are not turning. the tracks are not on the rollers or are

dragging on something. Jon[/quote]

Jon, Thanks for the reply. The track rollers seem to be fine but I will definitely check it out. Dan
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Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:53 AM
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I know nothing about the gas cats,but if the steering clutches and brakes are the same setup as the diesels make sure the brake lining has not rusted to the drum.Had this on a 9u D6 have rolled them around with a small wheel tractor a number of times.What a dead one I wanted moved and would not roll so put another 9u on the cable and it would pivot but the side would not brake loose.Didn't think in 8 or 9 months the brake could rust that much.I need in the steering clutches any way so pulled the fuel and that was the problem.
Ray
[quote="Ray54"]I know nothing about the gas cats,but if the steering clutches and brakes are the same setup as the diesels make sure the brake lining has not rusted to the drum.Had this on a 9u D6 have rolled them around with a small wheel tractor a number of times.What a dead one I wanted moved and would not roll so put another 9u on the cable and it would pivot but the side would not brake loose.Didn't think in 8 or 9 months the brake could rust that much.I need in the steering clutches any way so pulled the fuel and that was the problem.
Ray[/quote]

Hi Ray, Thanks for the reply. I have the top transmission cover off and the brakes are not rusted or stuck. It could still be a problem with the breaks I just have to find it. Dan
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Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:00 AM
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[quote="Ray54"]I know nothing about the gas cats,but if the steering clutches and brakes are the same setup as the diesels make sure the brake lining has not rusted to the drum.Had this on a 9u D6 have rolled them around with a small wheel tractor a number of times.What a dead one I wanted moved and would not roll so put another 9u on the cable and it would pivot but the side would not brake loose.Didn't think in 8 or 9 months the brake could rust that much.I need in the steering clutches any way so pulled the fuel and that was the problem.
Ray[/quote]

Hi Ray, Thanks for the reply. I have the top transmission cover off and the brakes are not rusted or stuck. It could still be a problem with the breaks I just have to find it. Dan
Thanks everybody for the help on my Cat 30 clutches. Ray, you were right, it was the breaks. The lining on the left side came loose and was jamming up the break. I replaced the linings and it works good again.
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