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Why is it every time I decide to sell something it quits running? I have a couple that wanted my 22 and I figured it was time. This cat has run great from the day I found it in a barn and has always started quick (electric start) for two years or more and the morning I make the decision, not easy, she won't start. Took the mag down to the shop I use in Fresno and there was a problem he fixed and recharged the magnet. Put it in and still won't go, pulled valve cover and rechecked marks and something didn't look right, back to shop and he found gear marks off three teeth and could not believe I hadn't taken it apart. I hadn't so he will figure it out. Hope nothing major broken, Oh well. Then the D2 sounds like its running on two injectors. I think I'll work on a lawnmower for a while steve
d2, 2n, 8n, 4000, cub cadet 169, massey compact, home made tractor, and more
Exact center of California
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Sat, Mar 5, 2016 10:20 PM
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Just wait til you get it in front of a crowd...a tractor or engine will never fail to start until you take it to a show, or heaven forbid kill it hooked to the pulling sled in front of hundreds of people...😛
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Sat, Mar 5, 2016 10:45 PM
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Just wait til you get it in front of a crowd...a tractor or engine will never fail to start until you take it to a show, or heaven forbid kill it hooked to the pulling sled in front of hundreds of people...😛
My theory is if you kill it hooked to the pulling sled, the tractor is telling you " Enough of this s... . I did my part all these years, I want to live a quiet life of tractor shows only". LOL?:usa2:
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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 12:41 AM
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My theory is if you kill it hooked to the pulling sled, the tractor is telling you " Enough of this s... . I did my part all these years, I want to live a quiet life of tractor shows only". LOL?:usa2:
Hi, RonM and Dozerman51.
MY theory if you kill it while pulling a sled is that you weren't paying enough attention to what the tractor was telling you about its relationship to the load.

Just my 0.02. (But what would I know? I'm just a 'pore. dumb bulldozer operator' in only the (5)2nd year of his apprenticeship.)

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 3:36 AM
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Hi, RonM and Dozerman51.
MY theory if you kill it while pulling a sled is that you weren't paying enough attention to what the tractor was telling you about its relationship to the load.

Just my 0.02. (But what would I know? I'm just a 'pore. dumb bulldozer operator' in only the (5)2nd year of his apprenticeship.)
Yeah, like you've never killed an engine, Deas...👋
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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 9:48 AM
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Yeah, like you've never killed an engine, Deas...👋
Steve ........ Did you get it running and make the sale?: If not let me know.

Tom 22runner
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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 11:59 AM
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Steve ........ Did you get it running and make the sale?: If not let me know.

Tom 22runner
Hi, RonM.
Yes, I have killed an engine - or even 2 - WHEN I wasn't paying attention. Similar situation to pretty much ALL traffic accidents being caused by 'mechanical failure' - - - - - the 'loose nut' holding the steering wheel. 😄

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 12:26 PM
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Hi, RonM.
Yes, I have killed an engine - or even 2 - WHEN I wasn't paying attention. Similar situation to pretty much ALL traffic accidents being caused by 'mechanical failure' - - - - - the 'loose nut' holding the steering wheel. 😄

Just my 0.02.
Well, the human tendency in a tractor pull is to get every inch you can, so it happens...& something about being killed under a hard pull makes a (gas) engine not want to start right up again. This of course is more of a problem with hand-crankers...humping a JD G or D over under stress in front of a crowd is good exercise.
Funniest thing I ever saw at the pull was a JD 70 Diesel...the guy idled it down too much taking up the slack, & it kept running when he pulled the clutch. But it sounded funny, & oil started puking out of the air stack...running backwards! He put her in first to pull, but she backed up against the sled... He was totally flustered, hadn't seen the oil puking out, & kept trying to find a "forward" gear. I was working the hook, & finally told him "Shut it off Calvin, it's runnin' backwards!" He was so befuddled I had to tell him twice, he looked at me like I was crazy...finally convinced him to kill it, & it was OK when he restarted it...just a mess from the oil. Those old 2-cyl. diesels would do that with just the right combination of clutch & bouncing back on compression.
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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 10:02 PM
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Steve ........ Did you get it running and make the sale?: If not let me know.

Tom 22runner
[quote="22runner"]Steve ........ Did you get it running and make the sale?: If not let me know.

Tom 22runner[/quote]
Not yet to both. The mag is still in the shop and I have a couple that say the will buy it if it runs. Hopefully next week I'll know. steve
d2, 2n, 8n, 4000, cub cadet 169, massey compact, home made tractor, and more
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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 10:44 PM
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Well, the human tendency in a tractor pull is to get every inch you can, so it happens...& something about being killed under a hard pull makes a (gas) engine not want to start right up again. This of course is more of a problem with hand-crankers...humping a JD G or D over under stress in front of a crowd is good exercise.
Funniest thing I ever saw at the pull was a JD 70 Diesel...the guy idled it down too much taking up the slack, & it kept running when he pulled the clutch. But it sounded funny, & oil started puking out of the air stack...running backwards! He put her in first to pull, but she backed up against the sled... He was totally flustered, hadn't seen the oil puking out, & kept trying to find a "forward" gear. I was working the hook, & finally told him "Shut it off Calvin, it's runnin' backwards!" He was so befuddled I had to tell him twice, he looked at me like I was crazy...finally convinced him to kill it, & it was OK when he restarted it...just a mess from the oil. Those old 2-cyl. diesels would do that with just the right combination of clutch & bouncing back on compression.
Hi, RonM.
I've hadda 2T D4 do that - - - when I was too slow knocking the clutch out. Strange sounds and oil coming out of the air cleaner was enough for me. Shut it down and fire the pony up to get it running the RIGHT way again.

Some of the old 1-lung diesel tractors could be gotten running backwards when stationary by shutting the throttle down until they were almost stopped and then jerking the throttle open again. Field Marshals and Lanz tractors were 2 examples of this.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 10:47 PM
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Hi, RonM.
I've hadda 2T D4 do that - - - when I was too slow knocking the clutch out. Strange sounds and oil coming out of the air cleaner was enough for me. Shut it down and fire the pony up to get it running the RIGHT way again.

Some of the old 1-lung diesel tractors could be gotten running backwards when stationary by shutting the throttle down until they were almost stopped and then jerking the throttle open again. Field Marshals and Lanz tractors were 2 examples of this.

Just my 0.02.
[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, RonM.
I've hadda 2T D4 do that - - - when I was too slow knocking the clutch out. Strange sounds and oil coming out of the air cleaner was enough for me. Shut it down and fire the pony up to get it running the RIGHT way again.

Some of the old 1-lung diesel tractors could be gotten running backwards when stationary by shutting the throttle down until they were almost stopped and then jerking the throttle open again. Field Marshals and Lanz tractors were 2 examples of this.

Just my 0.02.[/quote]

6-71 Detroits were good for running backwards if you were in a hard pull in lower gears and pushed the clutch in to late. Happened to me once as a lad with a 100,000 lb gross of tree length pulp wood. Lucky the brakes were good to hold on the logging road hill and it started right up. Had to back down to a better spot to get going again in granny gear.
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