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Leon R
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I have been cleaning up the bottom end and removed the #1 connecting rod cap and plastigaged the journal with between .003 and.004 results which is OK. Both sides of the rod have shims with two thicker steel shims with several thin brass shims sandwiched between. One side, the outer thick metal shim , has some babbitt fused to the edge of the shim. I put it all back together first without removing the shims and was sure to put the cap on the correct way (#1 stamped one the rod and on the cap. When I tightened it down it is binding on the crank so that it will not rotate and there is no end (side to side) play as the remaining three have. I then took it back off and checked it with plastigage again getting the same readings. I then thought that the one shim with the fused on babbitt was causing the problem so I removed the babbitt and put it back together with the same binding. I can't figure out why it is binding? I would welcome any ideas as to what might be the problem and possible solution. Thanks, Leon
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Sun, Sep 19, 2010 5:58 AM
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Some times the shims can be pinched against the crank pin. I like to tighten the nuts down till they are snug, but not tight. Then tap the side of the rod gently into the crankpin both ways. The crank pin will push the shims back flush to the same level as the babbitt. If this does not do the trick, try to plastigage the entire length of the surface. If the crankpin has tapered wear you will need to open up the oil clearance a bit.
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Sun, Sep 19, 2010 7:30 AM
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Some times the shims can be pinched against the crank pin. I like to tighten the nuts down till they are snug, but not tight. Then tap the side of the rod gently into the crankpin both ways. The crank pin will push the shims back flush to the same level as the babbitt. If this does not do the trick, try to plastigage the entire length of the surface. If the crankpin has tapered wear you will need to open up the oil clearance a bit.
Leon; Greetings from rainy Kamloops. Just a thought, is it possible that the piston could have turned 180 degrees and your cap and conn.rods are lineing up on the wrong side of the engine. Kevin
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Sun, Sep 19, 2010 10:49 PM
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Leon; Greetings from rainy Kamloops. Just a thought, is it possible that the piston could have turned 180 degrees and your cap and conn.rods are lineing up on the wrong side of the engine. Kevin
Thanks again Wyocat. I gave that a try and even added another .002 shim to each side and it still binds. Have to get back at it later today and lay some plastigage in it at different locations to see where it is binding. Also will have to borrow a micrometer to check the crank. If I can get this one figured out I am not going to mess with the other three. I just wanted to check it out and get it running before I could make a decision on how far I wanted to go with restoring it.

Hi Kevin, no, I haven't rotated the piston, but thanks for the suggestion. Raining down here as well. If you ever make it this way, give me a call. Leon
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Mon, Sep 20, 2010 2:50 AM
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Reply to Leon R:
Thanks again Wyocat. I gave that a try and even added another .002 shim to each side and it still binds. Have to get back at it later today and lay some plastigage in it at different locations to see where it is binding. Also will have to borrow a micrometer to check the crank. If I can get this one figured out I am not going to mess with the other three. I just wanted to check it out and get it running before I could make a decision on how far I wanted to go with restoring it.

Hi Kevin, no, I haven't rotated the piston, but thanks for the suggestion. Raining down here as well. If you ever make it this way, give me a call. Leon
You bet Leon I,ll be sure to give you a call. Have lots of parts sources and lots of repair and rebuild experiance on the old cats.
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Mon, Sep 20, 2010 6:36 AM
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You bet Leon I,ll be sure to give you a call. Have lots of parts sources and lots of repair and rebuild experiance on the old cats.
Well, I got it done. I added one .002 shim to each side and tapped the rod and cap back and forth, torqued it up to 80lbs and was able to rotate the crank. Took it back apart and plastigaged it with just under .004, so it looks like it is good to go. I still think I will leave the rest alone as the crank and babbitt on @1 looked OK. Thanks again everyone for the advice. Leon
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