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While doing a complete service on my grader, when I checked the transmission it was about a gallon overfull. The oil was pretty dark, almost like motor oil, and the main engine was a little low. Is there a seal somewhere (possibly on the power shaft that drives the novelty box & hydraulic pump) that would be letting engine oil in to the transmission? Need to get this resolved, grading some gravel roads is just around the corner! Thanks for any suggestions........serial#70D3311
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Mon, Feb 29, 2016 11:28 AM
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There is no way for engine oil to get to the transmission. My guess is that the transmission oil was filled with the front of the machine pointed downhill some. Nothing to worry about. If you decide to change the transmission it takes 50w mineral oil. Do not use 80w-90 as the ingredients will cause harm to the bronze bushings. It takes 13 gal if I remember right. Also there is a washable filter on the lower front right side of the trans case if you are sitting under it. Also there are two drain plugs for the trans. You only fill the rear, it will pump up to fill the front housing.
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Mon, Feb 29, 2016 9:06 PM
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There is no way for engine oil to get to the transmission. My guess is that the transmission oil was filled with the front of the machine pointed downhill some. Nothing to worry about. If you decide to change the transmission it takes 50w mineral oil. Do not use 80w-90 as the ingredients will cause harm to the bronze bushings. It takes 13 gal if I remember right. Also there is a washable filter on the lower front right side of the trans case if you are sitting under it. Also there are two drain plugs for the trans. You only fill the rear, it will pump up to fill the front housing.
The 70Dxxxx is an oil clutch model. It uses the main engine sump as a common reservoir with one of the main engine oil pump sections supplying circulating engine oil to the oil clutch with return back to main engine sump. There is no corkscrew oil return thread on the oil clutch version engine crankshaft.
There is a seal on the transmission input shaft #5H0033 that would allow engine oil from the clutch section into the transmission if it fails.
There is no seal on the power shaft that would transfer engine oil to the transmission.
Original transmission oil was a straight mineral oil SAE 90.
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Mon, Feb 29, 2016 10:50 PM
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The 70Dxxxx is an oil clutch model. It uses the main engine sump as a common reservoir with one of the main engine oil pump sections supplying circulating engine oil to the oil clutch with return back to main engine sump. There is no corkscrew oil return thread on the oil clutch version engine crankshaft.
There is a seal on the transmission input shaft #5H0033 that would allow engine oil from the clutch section into the transmission if it fails.
There is no seal on the power shaft that would transfer engine oil to the transmission.
Original transmission oil was a straight mineral oil SAE 90.
I stand corrected.
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Mon, Feb 29, 2016 11:23 PM
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I stand corrected.
Had to take a double look at that one myself. Coffee hadn't kicked in.
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Mon, Feb 29, 2016 11:28 PM
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Had to take a double look at that one myself. Coffee hadn't kicked in.
Thanks for the replies.... OM are we talking about the upper transmission shaft that mates up with clutch discs in the bellhousing ? That is where it would be in direct contact with engine lubricating oil? That seal (5H0033) looks to have double lips... one facing each direction.
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Tue, Mar 1, 2016 12:51 AM
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Thanks for the replies.... OM are we talking about the upper transmission shaft that mates up with clutch discs in the bellhousing ? That is where it would be in direct contact with engine lubricating oil? That seal (5H0033) looks to have double lips... one facing each direction.
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Yes, that would be the one. Engine oil flying around in there and fed to the brake would be able to leak along the shaft past the seal.
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Tue, Mar 1, 2016 1:50 AM
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Yes, that would be the one. Engine oil flying around in there and fed to the brake would be able to leak along the shaft past the seal.
Thanks OM looks like it is time to get the wrenches out! Another quick question can I use 15-40 oil in the engine on this machine? (It is the 31😎
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Tue, Mar 1, 2016 4:07 AM
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Thanks OM looks like it is time to get the wrenches out! Another quick question can I use 15-40 oil in the engine on this machine? (It is the 31😎
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Not on my recommendation. I'm a believer in using the original straight weight SAE30 or SAE40 engine oils.
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Tue, Mar 1, 2016 5:03 AM
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Operating in cold weather, I think you will be better off using the 15W40. If not operating in cold weather, probably no benefit from using it over the straight single viscosity oils, but its what I use primarily because I have it on hand for everything else.

I do not have anything that uses the low emission formulations offered by some companies (Delo 400 LE for example), so the 15W40 i use is Delo400 Multigrade 15W40...........I think. Been a while since I saw a sheet on it and looks like they may not make it anymore.
D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare timeπŸ˜„
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