ACMOC
Login
ACMOC
canopy for D47U

canopy for D47U

Showing 1 to 10 of 22 results
1
Elton
Topic Author
Offline
Member
Send a private message to Elton
Posts: 174
Thank you received: 0
Good morning!  Over the last few months I have looked for some kind of overhead protection for my 1956 D4.  Most of the work I have for it is in the woods and my wife is concerned (correctly) that I might knock down a "widow maker" and make her a widow!  I want to build a protective device that looks mostly correct for the tractor so I have decided to make my version of part number 8F6576 Canopy Group from steel.  In order to keep things in proper proportion, I am asking for any dimensions that might be available, especially from the top of the fenders to the bottom of the framework.  Ideas and suggestions are always welcome.  Thank you for your help!  Elton
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Mon, Nov 27, 2023 9:50 PM
Ray54
Offline
Send a private message to Ray54
Posts: 1,857
Thank you received: 4
I would suggest you worry more about how you fit in than making it "look correct". But not knowing you, maybe you are of a small stature so you will not be banging you head into a low canopy. I have a friend that is much shorter than I, for working in his walnut orchard he wanted to keep things low. He fits, I don't not pleasant for me to operate his tractor. North Americans have gotten taller over the last 100 years. So what was good for most 50 years ago may not fit you. As it sounds like you have real use for your D4 make sure your comfortable.

Again not knowing what kind of trees you're working with and how big of pieces could come looking for you, the posts could be way to small for real protection from period correct canopies. I have built several canopies out of 2 inch by 1/4 wall square tube. I consider than the very minim size. I was looking more for limb lifters in walnut trees than to keep dead pieces falling from up on top. I first tried using pieces of home-built canopies that came with tractor I bought, and they all rattled and vibrated trebly. Guistes in all the top coroners and solid top plate helped stop all that. For real brush work I like the Aussies rounded tops better than most of what I see of USA built canopies. But not period correct to what Cat had in the day. So consider how much you think of your head, the worry about looks.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 12:37 AM
Elton
Topic Author
Offline
Member
Send a private message to Elton
Posts: 174
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Ray54:
I would suggest you worry more about how you fit in than making it "look correct". But not knowing you, maybe you are of a small stature so you will not be banging you head into a low canopy. I have a friend that is much shorter than I, for working in his walnut orchard he wanted to keep things low. He fits, I don't not pleasant for me to operate his tractor. North Americans have gotten taller over the last 100 years. So what was good for most 50 years ago may not fit you. As it sounds like you have real use for your D4 make sure your comfortable.

Again not knowing what kind of trees you're working with and how big of pieces could come looking for you, the posts could be way to small for real protection from period correct canopies. I have built several canopies out of 2 inch by 1/4 wall square tube. I consider than the very minim size. I was looking more for limb lifters in walnut trees than to keep dead pieces falling from up on top. I first tried using pieces of home-built canopies that came with tractor I bought, and they all rattled and vibrated trebly. Guistes in all the top coroners and solid top plate helped stop all that. For real brush work I like the Aussies rounded tops better than most of what I see of USA built canopies. But not period correct to what Cat had in the day. So consider how much you think of your head, the worry about looks.
Thanks Ray54, the first priority is to make it work and the second is to make it look good. Maybe I have been restoring cars too long but generally it takes very little extra effort and expense to make an accessory "look" correct than it does to just make something work. The thought and effort that goes into making an item that works well, requires little effort to make it look great too! BTW I am 5'10" soo not very tall. I would love to have the measurements for the factory canopy, at least to start with. An inch or so is not likely to make much difference in the finished appearance.

The FLECO cab looks good but I don't know if there is anyone in my area that could roll the uprights.

Elton
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 1:23 AM
Rome K/G
Offline
Send a private message to Rome K/G
Posts: 6,092
Thank you received: 0
Had a machine/fab shop make new arches for mine, the top is 3/16" rolled sheet, the tubes are 2 1/2" schedule 40. I also have supports under the fenders on each cab leg.
[attachment=74405]0627131444.jpg[/attachment][attachment=74406]0627131445.jpg[/attachment][attachment=74407]Cat D4, 955L.JPG[/attachment]
Attachment
Attachment
Attachment
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 1:28 AM
neil
Offline
Moderator
Admin
Send a private message to neil
Posts: 6,933
Thank you received: 4
Reply to Elton:
Thanks Ray54, the first priority is to make it work and the second is to make it look good. Maybe I have been restoring cars too long but generally it takes very little extra effort and expense to make an accessory "look" correct than it does to just make something work. The thought and effort that goes into making an item that works well, requires little effort to make it look great too! BTW I am 5'10" soo not very tall. I would love to have the measurements for the factory canopy, at least to start with. An inch or so is not likely to make much difference in the finished appearance.

The FLECO cab looks good but I don't know if there is anyone in my area that could roll the uprights.

Elton
I'll be very interested to see what you come up with Elton. Given that it doesn't have a requirement to be certified, a fellow could make it taller if the headroom was needed (I don't, I'm about the same height as you)
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 1:32 AM
Elton
Topic Author
Offline
Member
Send a private message to Elton
Posts: 174
Thank you received: 0
Rome, thanks for the pictures and your suggestions. What did you attach your under supports to? There are some bolts here and there, but I don't remember anything aligning up exactly. Maybe just poor memory!
Neil, through the years of my D4 ownership you have been very helpful by making suggestions and offering guidance to the less experienced newby. For all that, I am thankful!

Elton

Again, if anyone has measurements for the original canopy, I would love to have them. Thanks!
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 2:11 AM
Deas Plant.
Offline
Member
Send a private message to Deas Plant.
Location: Currently - DowNunda.
Posts: 6,638
Thank you received: 11
Reply to Elton:
Rome, thanks for the pictures and your suggestions. What did you attach your under supports to? There are some bolts here and there, but I don't remember anything aligning up exactly. Maybe just poor memory!
Neil, through the years of my D4 ownership you have been very helpful by making suggestions and offering guidance to the less experienced newby. For all that, I am thankful!

Elton

Again, if anyone has measurements for the original canopy, I would love to have them. Thanks!
Hi, Elton.
From some little experience on D4s, I would suggest that you worry less about the look of the canopy and more about the possibilty of going over a bump and being 'LAUNCHED from the seat into the underside of said canopy. I would want at least 9 - 12 inches under such a canopy to cope with both a possible ;launching' and the possibility of a branch or limb dinging the roof of your canopy down somewhat.

Unless you have the heavy fenders, reinforcing under them would be a MUST for a falling objects protection structure - FOPS. Even with the heavy fenders it would not exactly be overkill to beef the fenders up. You could start that by making brackets attached to the fender mounting bolts themselves.

The rounded tops are GREAT for deflecting falling objects.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 3:36 AM
Old Magnet
Offline
Send a private message to Old Magnet
Posts: 16,694
Thank you received: 16
Reply to Deas Plant.:
Hi, Elton.
From some little experience on D4s, I would suggest that you worry less about the look of the canopy and more about the possibilty of going over a bump and being 'LAUNCHED from the seat into the underside of said canopy. I would want at least 9 - 12 inches under such a canopy to cope with both a possible ;launching' and the possibility of a branch or limb dinging the roof of your canopy down somewhat.

Unless you have the heavy fenders, reinforcing under them would be a MUST for a falling objects protection structure - FOPS. Even with the heavy fenders it would not exactly be overkill to beef the fenders up. You could start that by making brackets attached to the fender mounting bolts themselves.

The rounded tops are GREAT for deflecting falling objects.

Just my 0.02.
Mine got combined with a three point hitch...might even finish it someday....
 [attachment=74408]DCP_1316.JPG[/attachment]
 [attachment=74410]DCP_1317.JPG[/attachment]
 [attachment=74409]DCP_1319.JPG[/attachment]
Attachment
Attachment
Attachment
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 4:33 AM
willwingo
Offline
Member
Send a private message to willwingo
Posts: 487
Thank you received: 3
Attached are a couple of pictures of the canopy on my 7U. It was fabricated in the Struthers- Wells shops in Titusville, PA in the early 1960's
The arches are 2" solid round stock, the sweeps are schedule 40 pipe, I added fender supports under each upright,
It survived a fall off the back of a low- boy at 45 mph with minor damage (not on this tractor).
It was "certified" for work of a federal project - the Kinzua Dam.

[attachment=74411]005.JPG[/attachment]

[attachment=74412]003.JPG[/attachment]
Attachment
Attachment
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 4:49 AM
Rome K/G
Offline
Send a private message to Rome K/G
Posts: 6,092
Thank you received: 0
Reply to willwingo:
Attached are a couple of pictures of the canopy on my 7U. It was fabricated in the Struthers- Wells shops in Titusville, PA in the early 1960's
The arches are 2" solid round stock, the sweeps are schedule 40 pipe, I added fender supports under each upright,
It survived a fall off the back of a low- boy at 45 mph with minor damage (not on this tractor).
It was "certified" for work of a federal project - the Kinzua Dam.

[attachment=74411]005.JPG[/attachment]

[attachment=74412]003.JPG[/attachment]
Attachment
Attachment
Well equipped there Will.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 5:14 AM
Elton
Topic Author
Offline
Member
Send a private message to Elton
Posts: 174
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Rome K/G:
Well equipped there Will.
I like the looks and obvious strength of that one!
Elton
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Tue, Nov 28, 2023 6:43 AM
Showing 1 to 10 of 22 results
1
YouTube Video Placeholder

Follow Us on Social Media

Our channel highlights machines from the earliest Holt and Best track-type tractors, equipment from the start of Caterpillar in 1925, up to units built in the mid-1960s.

Upcoming Events

Wheatlands Warracknabeal Easter Rally

Chapter Nineteen

| 34 Henty Hwy, Warracknabeal

Veerkamp Open House 2025

Chapter Fifteen

| Placerville, CA

Stradsett Park Vintage Rally

Chapter Two

| Stradsett, Nr Downham Market. Norfolk PE33 9HA UK
View Calendar
ACMOC

Antique Caterpillar
Machinery Owners Club

1115 Madison St NE # 1117
Salem, OR 97301

[email protected]

Terms & Privacy
Website developed by AdCo

Testimonials

"I also joined a year ago. had been on here a couple of times as a non-member and found the info very helpful so I got a one year subscription (not very expensive at all) to try it out. I really like all the resources on here so I just got a three year. I think its a very small price for what you can get out of this site."
-Jason N

Join Today!