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Hello. What is the proper way to knock down medium to heavy bush. Do i tramp it first and then pile or take the trees down individually and pile ?
If i tramp the bush- do i go in one direction on one pass and then opposite on the next.
I have about 20 acres to take down with D7 H.

Any input would be great !

Ford
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Tue, Oct 25, 2011 8:54 PM
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Full Throttle, hat turned backwards and a devilish gleam in your eye. Don't fret too much, just stand on it son and get 'er done😈😈.

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Wed, Oct 26, 2011 3:59 AM
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Full Throttle, hat turned backwards and a devilish gleam in your eye. Don't fret too much, just stand on it son and get 'er done😈😈.

Casey
Thanks Casey
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Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:29 AM
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Thanks Casey
Hi, Ford.
The whole trick of ANY work ANYWHERE, on ANYTHING, is to finish up with both machine(s) and operator(s) in the same state of health or better at the end of it than when you started. Clearing is one type of work that can bring that undone in a hurry if you are not careful.

A D7H is a reasonable-sized machine but is still subject to all the unexpected vagaries of falling and snapping timber. It is not a good idea to just charge into it, blade up, rooting and snorting, if there is any real size to any of the vegetation that you are clearing. Wood may be softer than steel but it is still pretty amazing at times just how much damage a piece of 'soft' timber can do to a machine. Brush can usually be simply flattened travelling in one direction, preferably at right angles to the direction that you intend to push in when piling it up. Once it is all flat, you can start piling it up being very careful about not getting dirt in your piles 'cos that mineral stuff makes it hard to get a good burn.

Anything that comes out of the ground with a root ball on it that your machine can't walk over without it scraping the underside of the machine needs different treatment. Knock it down, then back up and pick up the roots, lift them out of the ground and push it ahead of you. You may be able to take down quite a few trees or bushes and push them ahead of you in this fashion if they are smallish. If they are bigger, you may need to deal with them one or two at a time.

ALWAYS keep your eyes open for a tree or a branch doing something UN-expected. Clearing is a game renowned for producing the unexpected and it has cost quite a few people dearly over the years.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Wed, Oct 26, 2011 5:35 PM
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Full Throttle, hat turned backwards and a devilish gleam in your eye. Don't fret too much, just stand on it son and get 'er done😈😈.

Casey
[quote="Casey Root"]Full Throttle, hat turned backwards and a devilish gleam in your eye. Don't fret too much, just stand on it son and get 'er done😈😈.

Casey[/quote]

Comments like this even in jest get people killed
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Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:23 PM
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[quote="Casey Root"]Full Throttle, hat turned backwards and a devilish gleam in your eye. Don't fret too much, just stand on it son and get 'er done😈😈.

Casey[/quote]

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Hi, Anyoldiron.
Yep. That wuz my thinkin' too. That wuz not quite the smartest that I have ever seen on this BB and I too thought it had the potential to cause some damage, which is a part of why I jumped in quick with my post.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Wed, Oct 26, 2011 7:44 PM
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Hi, Anyoldiron.
Yep. That wuz my thinkin' too. That wuz not quite the smartest that I have ever seen on this BB and I too thought it had the potential to cause some damage, which is a part of why I jumped in quick with my post.

Just my 0.02.
l read a lot of forums, due to alot FE based addictions, bar the very occasional moronic sniping this is by far the most informative "grown up" if you will site i read ( perhaps the stak as well).

People put alot of stead in what is written here. The practice above will get you killed quickly weather by dead fall a hang or being speared by a sprung willow etc etc, and taking a couple of hours to die.

To my mind theres no place for subtly where safety is concerned.
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Wed, Oct 26, 2011 8:09 PM
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l read a lot of forums, due to alot FE based addictions, bar the very occasional moronic sniping this is by far the most informative "grown up" if you will site i read ( perhaps the stak as well).

People put alot of stead in what is written here. The practice above will get you killed quickly weather by dead fall a hang or being speared by a sprung willow etc etc, and taking a couple of hours to die.

To my mind theres no place for subtly where safety is concerned.
You want to be careful pushing over trees, give them a slow push over, then drop the blade down to catch the root ball so you can lift and push. Hit them fast and high with the blade and sooner or later you will have one back over the top of you.

My kids called it tree bashing and took a delight in it.😈
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Thu, Oct 27, 2011 8:19 AM
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Reply to anyoldiron:
l read a lot of forums, due to alot FE based addictions, bar the very occasional moronic sniping this is by far the most informative "grown up" if you will site i read ( perhaps the stak as well).

People put alot of stead in what is written here. The practice above will get you killed quickly weather by dead fall a hang or being speared by a sprung willow etc etc, and taking a couple of hours to die.

To my mind theres no place for subtly where safety is concerned.
Ford,
make no mistake; tree work is fraught with danger. If you can organize a ROPS or some kind of protective structure on your tractor, you won't regret it. The bigger the tree, the more potential for misadventure. Be very careful and vigilant. Do one tree at a time and build up an appreciation for their behaviour when they drop. Plenty (and I mean plenty) of people have been killed/maimed because they had a laissez-faire attitude in this situation.
All that said, pushing the trees over in one direction, and then heaping them 90 degrees to that will get you a long way. Deas has good advice. If you can manage to avoid getting a lot of dirt into the burn pile, you'll have good burn results. You could also accomplish a lot (if the trees are big enough) by "giving firewood away". All you'll be left with after that are stumps, which in many ways are easier to deal with that full-size trees. You could invite the local firewood guy in to clear out an agreed section. Just tell him to leave enough stump for you to be able to work with with the tractor.

Cheers,
Neil
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Thu, Oct 27, 2011 9:00 AM
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Ford,
make no mistake; tree work is fraught with danger. If you can organize a ROPS or some kind of protective structure on your tractor, you won't regret it. The bigger the tree, the more potential for misadventure. Be very careful and vigilant. Do one tree at a time and build up an appreciation for their behaviour when they drop. Plenty (and I mean plenty) of people have been killed/maimed because they had a laissez-faire attitude in this situation.
All that said, pushing the trees over in one direction, and then heaping them 90 degrees to that will get you a long way. Deas has good advice. If you can manage to avoid getting a lot of dirt into the burn pile, you'll have good burn results. You could also accomplish a lot (if the trees are big enough) by "giving firewood away". All you'll be left with after that are stumps, which in many ways are easier to deal with that full-size trees. You could invite the local firewood guy in to clear out an agreed section. Just tell him to leave enough stump for you to be able to work with with the tractor.

Cheers,
Neil
Brush and a D7H is one thing. Trees and a D7H are another matter. In my mind trees require ROPS, sweeps and screens then you still have to be careful that a limb doesn't join you in the house and make a shish-kabob out of you. The brush that we deal with is something else. One afternoon we cleared in excess of 20 acres of brush with 2 D7s on either side of a 46A D8. The swath we cut was about 40 feet wide and after a 300 yard run the mountain of brush was incredible. When it was lit, there was rats and rabbits running everywhere.

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Thu, Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM
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Brush and a D7H is one thing. Trees and a D7H are another matter. In my mind trees require ROPS, sweeps and screens then you still have to be careful that a limb doesn't join you in the house and make a shish-kabob out of you. The brush that we deal with is something else. One afternoon we cleared in excess of 20 acres of brush with 2 D7s on either side of a 46A D8. The swath we cut was about 40 feet wide and after a 300 yard run the mountain of brush was incredible. When it was lit, there was rats and rabbits running everywhere.

Casey
Thank you for all the advice guys ! I will be careful and i will not charge the trees . Trees are dangerous and deserve respect-
Since we are on the topic of clearing , does anyone have any stories or photographs of the Anchor chain and Ball used with 2 crawlers. I seen a photo years ago but cannot locate it again.

Thanks,

Ford
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