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I pulled the sheet metal gas tank off my Big 20 and found a number of pinholes on the bottom where it sits on the felt pad. I plan to solder the holes shut and then line the tank with Red-Kote. There are numerous rusty dimples on the outside bottom of the tank, that have not rusted through. Any suggestions on what to use on the outside bottom to fill the dimples and prevent further rust?
I'm condidering using POR-15 but comments or suggestions appreciated.
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Fri, Dec 17, 2010 2:03 PM
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Not sure if POR-15 will fill the dimples but I've been very impressed with it as a primer over rusted metal. I used it on some rusted gate posts when building my entrance gate. The posts had pitted surface rust that gave the post a rustic look. I sanded them, wiped them down with a thinner, and then primed them with POR-15. They have been in the elements for 8 years now and there is no sign of any rust returning. I will definitely use the product again.
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Fri, Dec 17, 2010 7:50 PM
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Not sure if POR-15 will fill the dimples but I've been very impressed with it as a primer over rusted metal. I used it on some rusted gate posts when building my entrance gate. The posts had pitted surface rust that gave the post a rustic look. I sanded them, wiped them down with a thinner, and then primed them with POR-15. They have been in the elements for 8 years now and there is no sign of any rust returning. I will definitely use the product again.
I always have just cut the bottom sheet metal out that was bad and welded in new metal. Never had a problem by doing it this way. Otherwise. vibration and additional age will result in a future failure of the tanks bottom.
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Mon, Dec 27, 2010 2:03 PM
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I always have just cut the bottom sheet metal out that was bad and welded in new metal. Never had a problem by doing it this way. Otherwise. vibration and additional age will result in a future failure of the tanks bottom.
I cut the bottoms out and replace them. This allows to clean the inside of the tank also. I cut along the weld seams and clean and reweld. When done the tanks look as they did when new. You would not know I cut and repaired it. I do not use sealer inside the tank. I pressure check and the make sure they are welded correctly. The sealer breaks down with the newer gas and plugs up the fuel system and the only way to get it out is cut the tank open and sandblast the inside. I used to do vintage car and truck tanks for customers and seal them but the sealer became a big problem. cut out the bottom piece and weld in a new.
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Mon, Dec 27, 2010 6:27 PM
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I cut the bottoms out and replace them. This allows to clean the inside of the tank also. I cut along the weld seams and clean and reweld. When done the tanks look as they did when new. You would not know I cut and repaired it. I do not use sealer inside the tank. I pressure check and the make sure they are welded correctly. The sealer breaks down with the newer gas and plugs up the fuel system and the only way to get it out is cut the tank open and sandblast the inside. I used to do vintage car and truck tanks for customers and seal them but the sealer became a big problem. cut out the bottom piece and weld in a new.
I replaced the bottom in my "CAT-28" tank, cant tell it was replaced and gave me a chance to sandblast inside of tank. I just finished replacing the bottom of the fuel tank on my Rd-6. I had a shop roll a new bottom and just cut the welds and rewedded in the new bottom. I did fill the tank with exhaust gas from my lawn mower, just to be sure.
Good luck
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Tue, Dec 28, 2010 1:32 PM
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I replaced the bottom in my "CAT-28" tank, cant tell it was replaced and gave me a chance to sandblast inside of tank. I just finished replacing the bottom of the fuel tank on my Rd-6. I had a shop roll a new bottom and just cut the welds and rewedded in the new bottom. I did fill the tank with exhaust gas from my lawn mower, just to be sure.
Good luck
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Welding in a new bottom on the welded steel type tanks is a great way to fix them! The big 20 however has a rolled and soldered tin type gas tank, so welding in a new bottom is not really possible. I have had good luck soldering up the pinholes on my tin tanks. I suppose you could solder a patch on the bottom where nobody will see it. Caterpillarman
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Tue, Dec 28, 2010 3:18 PM
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Welding in a new bottom on the welded steel type tanks is a great way to fix them! The big 20 however has a rolled and soldered tin type gas tank, so welding in a new bottom is not really possible. I have had good luck soldering up the pinholes on my tin tanks. I suppose you could solder a patch on the bottom where nobody will see it. Caterpillarman
Automotive body repair guys used solder to fill pin holes and dimples on automotive sheet metal. If it was cleaned well, you could probably do the same with it.
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Tue, Dec 28, 2010 6:57 PM
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Automotive body repair guys used solder to fill pin holes and dimples on automotive sheet metal. If it was cleaned well, you could probably do the same with it.
Do all CAT-20's have tin gas tanks, I don't know? I thought some had heaver tanks like my Cat-28? I also did the bottom of the gas tank in my CAT-22. If it is a "tin" tank then you could just solder on a patch or solder in a new bottom like "CATMAN" said.
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Wed, Dec 29, 2010 12:05 PM
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Do all CAT-20's have tin gas tanks, I don't know? I thought some had heaver tanks like my Cat-28? I also did the bottom of the gas tank in my CAT-22. If it is a "tin" tank then you could just solder on a patch or solder in a new bottom like "CATMAN" said.
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Hello, All Cat big 20's have the tin gas tank. The little 20's have the welded steel tank like a 22 and 28. Caterpillarman
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Wed, Dec 29, 2010 1:33 PM
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Hello, All Cat big 20's have the tin gas tank. The little 20's have the welded steel tank like a 22 and 28. Caterpillarman
Thanks for the information Caterpillarman. I learned something new today.
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Thu, Dec 30, 2010 1:41 PM
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Thanks for the information Caterpillarman. I learned something new today.
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I soldered up about 15 pinholes on the bottom of the tin gastank on my 1930 Big 20. I then coated the outside bottom of the tank using POR-15 (a 3 step process). The bottom seems as hard as a rock and I'm confident the tank will still be good when I'm gone. Based up on recommendations from Jim Zimmerman and others, I will be lining the inside of the tank with Red-Kote. This product has been very succesful holdung up under the newer fuels. If interested, their link is www.damonq.com Thank you for all your suggestions.
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