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Hi, new here, just purchased french built D4d (serial no starts with 61j but don't have the rest as not been delivered yet!) It has been picked up and is due to be delivered Monday only it didn't start when the lads picked it up and had to be pushed on. Thought to get a couple of batteries for it over the weekend, anyone know what spec/size they are. I guess the largest, highest amperage I can get. Will post some pics when I get her!
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Sat, Dec 21, 2013 12:24 AM
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I'm not familiar with that model #. But, if you have a direct electric start then, the batteries are typically described as 4D class. Ratings vary in the area of 1,000 cold cranking amps. It uses two wired in series for 24 volts. However, if you have a pony motor this is normally a single 12 volt 400-500 cold cranking amp automotive type.

Others here may have more detailed info, in case your French build has some other specs.

Good luck to you.
You only need two tools in life - WD-40 and Duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40 If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape.
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Cat D4D 83J w 3304 PC engine, FOPS, s/t blade, D4F winch, air ride seat, "wobble" stick blade lever and D8H control panel
Cat 920 62K w 3304 PC engine, FOPS, 4 in 1 bucket
1995 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 RCSB Cummins 5 speed
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Sat, Dec 21, 2013 2:12 AM
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Reply to 83Jim:
I'm not familiar with that model #. But, if you have a direct electric start then, the batteries are typically described as 4D class. Ratings vary in the area of 1,000 cold cranking amps. It uses two wired in series for 24 volts. However, if you have a pony motor this is normally a single 12 volt 400-500 cold cranking amp automotive type.

Others here may have more detailed info, in case your French build has some other specs.

Good luck to you.
Thanks Jim, turned out it would not start due to having run out of "go go" juice!!! Arrived in the yard this morn, dragged it off the low loader put some juice in her, bled and away we went, batteries seem fine although suspect the Bendix may need some lubrication. All works as it should, having just tracked it the 1.5 miles down the farm track.
Serial number is 60jJ1134, engine number the same, trans type 4K5035.
What workshop manual/parts manual should I get as there seem a number of different ones for the D4d?
A couple of pics, I suspect it had a dozer blade fitted at one time but no longer.
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Mon, Dec 23, 2013 6:01 PM
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Reply to MrNoo:
Thanks Jim, turned out it would not start due to having run out of "go go" juice!!! Arrived in the yard this morn, dragged it off the low loader put some juice in her, bled and away we went, batteries seem fine although suspect the Bendix may need some lubrication. All works as it should, having just tracked it the 1.5 miles down the farm track.
Serial number is 60jJ1134, engine number the same, trans type 4K5035.
What workshop manual/parts manual should I get as there seem a number of different ones for the D4d?
A couple of pics, I suspect it had a dozer blade fitted at one time but no longer.
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Nice looking machine.
It may not have had a dozer attachment. A hydraulic tank would typically have been installed between the engine and instrument panel. Also, trunion balls for the blade arms would have been bolted to the outside of the roller frame just ahead of the sprocket.

A lot of this size machine with direct drive transmissions did primarily drawbar work in agriculture and such.

Merry Christmas
You only need two tools in life - WD-40 and Duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40 If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape.
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Cat D4D 83J w 3304 PC engine, FOPS, s/t blade, D4F winch, air ride seat, "wobble" stick blade lever and D8H control panel
Cat 920 62K w 3304 PC engine, FOPS, 4 in 1 bucket
1995 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 RCSB Cummins 5 speed
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Tue, Dec 24, 2013 11:36 PM
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Reply to 83Jim:
Nice looking machine.
It may not have had a dozer attachment. A hydraulic tank would typically have been installed between the engine and instrument panel. Also, trunion balls for the blade arms would have been bolted to the outside of the roller frame just ahead of the sprocket.

A lot of this size machine with direct drive transmissions did primarily drawbar work in agriculture and such.

Merry Christmas
Hello there Dr Noo,

Nice little project you have there, whats the plan for it?
I'm down in windy Devon and also have a D4D but its an earlier 88A series

part 2

I found the manuals for my old bird off e-bay.

part 3

Did some research online and a 60J1134 looks like it was built in 1969
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Tue, Dec 24, 2013 11:47 PM
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Reply to 83Jim:
Nice looking machine.
It may not have had a dozer attachment. A hydraulic tank would typically have been installed between the engine and instrument panel. Also, trunion balls for the blade arms would have been bolted to the outside of the roller frame just ahead of the sprocket.

A lot of this size machine with direct drive transmissions did primarily drawbar work in agriculture and such.

Merry Christmas
[quote="83Jim"]Nice looking machine.
It may not have had a dozer attachment. A hydraulic tank would typically have been installed between the engine and instrument panel. Also, trunion balls for the blade arms would have been bolted to the outside of the roller frame just ahead of the sprocket.

A lot of this size machine with direct drive transmissions did primarily drawbar work in agriculture and such.

Merry Christmas[/quote]

Jim,
yes it has the lumps of steel bolted in front of the sprockets, I suspect the trunion balls were gassed of, there is also evidence of holes were the lever would have come through the right side below the battery box (blade control I guess?) I need to do a little more research.
Merry Christmas
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Wed, Dec 25, 2013 12:49 AM
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Reply to Richard~J~W:
Hello there Dr Noo,

Nice little project you have there, whats the plan for it?
I'm down in windy Devon and also have a D4D but its an earlier 88A series

part 2

I found the manuals for my old bird off e-bay.

part 3

Did some research online and a 60J1134 looks like it was built in 1969
[quote="Richard~J~W"]Hello there Dr Noo,

Nice little project you have there, whats the plan for it?
I'm down in windy Devon and also have a D4D but its an earlier 88A series

part 2

I found the manuals for my old bird off e-bay.[/quote]

Hi Richard, shed roof still on?? Bit windy last night here! I have followed your rebuild with interest (and hope mine won't be so involved as yours!!)
I plan to gently do her up, tracks seem ok although a little wear on the bushes, rollers seem ok, prob be fine for what I plan to do with it which hopefully will be get hold of a trailing plough and do the odd bit of ploughing for fun, maybe do a few matches. But just taking stock and deciding how far to go with it in the refurbishment stakes.
I shall have a trawl on Ebay, many thanks
Merry Christmas.
regards Chris
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Wed, Dec 25, 2013 12:55 AM
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[quote="Richard~J~W"]Hello there Dr Noo,

Nice little project you have there, whats the plan for it?
I'm down in windy Devon and also have a D4D but its an earlier 88A series

part 2

I found the manuals for my old bird off e-bay.[/quote]

Hi Richard, shed roof still on?? Bit windy last night here! I have followed your rebuild with interest (and hope mine won't be so involved as yours!!)
I plan to gently do her up, tracks seem ok although a little wear on the bushes, rollers seem ok, prob be fine for what I plan to do with it which hopefully will be get hold of a trailing plough and do the odd bit of ploughing for fun, maybe do a few matches. But just taking stock and deciding how far to go with it in the refurbishment stakes.
I shall have a trawl on Ebay, many thanks
Merry Christmas.
regards Chris
[quote="MrNoo"]Hi Richard, shed roof still on?? Bit windy last night here! I have followed your rebuild with interest (and hope mine won't be so involved as yours!!)
I plan to gently do her up, tracks seem ok although a little wear on the bushes, rollers seem ok, prob be fine for what I plan to do with it which hopefully will be get hold of a trailing plough and do the odd bit of ploughing for fun, maybe do a few matches. But just taking stock and deciding how far to go with it in the refurbishment stakes.
I shall have a trawl on Ebay, many thanks
Merry Christmas.
regards Chris[/quote]

ahhh....small world ๐Ÿ˜Š

yes, the roof is just about still on, mind you its been rough......we're pretty much on the coast down here so in the teeth of the south westerlys

As you have probably seen finding a trailed plough is not easy for these things. ......what I did was picked up a s/h rear linkage off e-bay for mine and one day i plan to hook it all up......probably when i am a pensioner......the Dowdeswell DP5 conventional plough can be screwed over far enough on the cross shaft to allow you to work on-land
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Wed, Dec 25, 2013 1:05 AM
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Reply to Richard~J~W:
[quote="MrNoo"]Hi Richard, shed roof still on?? Bit windy last night here! I have followed your rebuild with interest (and hope mine won't be so involved as yours!!)
I plan to gently do her up, tracks seem ok although a little wear on the bushes, rollers seem ok, prob be fine for what I plan to do with it which hopefully will be get hold of a trailing plough and do the odd bit of ploughing for fun, maybe do a few matches. But just taking stock and deciding how far to go with it in the refurbishment stakes.
I shall have a trawl on Ebay, many thanks
Merry Christmas.
regards Chris[/quote]

ahhh....small world ๐Ÿ˜Š

yes, the roof is just about still on, mind you its been rough......we're pretty much on the coast down here so in the teeth of the south westerlys

As you have probably seen finding a trailed plough is not easy for these things. ......what I did was picked up a s/h rear linkage off e-bay for mine and one day i plan to hook it all up......probably when i am a pensioner......the Dowdeswell DP5 conventional plough can be screwed over far enough on the cross shaft to allow you to work on-land
[quote="Richard~J~W"]ahhh....small world ๐Ÿ˜Š

yes, the roof is just about still on, mind you its been rough......we're pretty much on the coast down here so in the teeth of the south westerlys

As you have probably seen finding a trailed plough is not easy for these things. ......what I did was picked up a s/h rear linkage off e-bay for mine and one day i plan to hook it all up......probably when i am a pensioner......the Dowdeswell DP5 conventional plough can be screwed over far enough on the cross shaft to allow you to work on-land[/quote]

Yes I have noted, a nice Hexatrac going for auction up in Scotland soon but too far and I think too expensive, have a chap selling a 4 furrow Multitrac
locally that needs work, so may make him an offer but intend to get the Cat done up first. I may get lucky and find a 3 pt linkage but would need to fit pump and oil tank also for this to be an option and also a front weight holder. I also have a cab (no glass) that I hope to get sorted and put on.
No doubt I will be asking a lot of questions when I get stuck into it, hope you don't mind?!!!!
regards Chris
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Wed, Dec 25, 2013 1:28 AM
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[quote="Richard~J~W"]ahhh....small world ๐Ÿ˜Š

yes, the roof is just about still on, mind you its been rough......we're pretty much on the coast down here so in the teeth of the south westerlys

As you have probably seen finding a trailed plough is not easy for these things. ......what I did was picked up a s/h rear linkage off e-bay for mine and one day i plan to hook it all up......probably when i am a pensioner......the Dowdeswell DP5 conventional plough can be screwed over far enough on the cross shaft to allow you to work on-land[/quote]

Yes I have noted, a nice Hexatrac going for auction up in Scotland soon but too far and I think too expensive, have a chap selling a 4 furrow Multitrac
locally that needs work, so may make him an offer but intend to get the Cat done up first. I may get lucky and find a 3 pt linkage but would need to fit pump and oil tank also for this to be an option and also a front weight holder. I also have a cab (no glass) that I hope to get sorted and put on.
No doubt I will be asking a lot of questions when I get stuck into it, hope you don't mind?!!!!
regards Chris
[quote="MrNoo"]Yes I have noted, a nice Hexatrac going for auction up in Scotland soon but too far and I think too expensive, have a chap selling a 4 furrow Multitrac
locally that needs work, so may make him an offer but intend to get the Cat done up first. I may get lucky and find a 3 pt linkage but would need to fit pump and oil tank also for this to be an option and also a front weight holder. I also have a cab (no glass) that I hope to get sorted and put on.
No doubt I will be asking a lot of questions when I get stuck into it, hope you don't mind?!!!!
regards Chris[/quote]

I have got a spare blade here for your machine......I am pretty sure it came off a 60J, its the frame, nose, cylinders, tank.....and I am pretty sure the pump is there with it too
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