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G'day. After the raising of the subject on another post I was wondering how common they were, were they ever Cat parts or just add on aftermarket. I imagine they were only a thing of the cable blade era. I have attached some photo's of the C frame from my D6 9U18323 with No 24 front control that has 4 ripper brackets under the frame. It was my Dad's from new in 55. I have never seen the rippers used and I don't have any parts other than the brackets on the frame.
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Sun, Jul 14, 2013 8:49 AM
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As I stated in the other post, they were not a Cat supplied item. Strictly aftermarket and still being manufactured for later units today (and still contraversial). Where they are quite common is on Military spec. dozers from D4 to D8 back in the day. The usual configuration is four rippers on the straight blade with brackets that allow the swing operation of the rippers and when they are not in use the pins can be pulled and the teeth inserted upside down and repinned so they are out of service.

I have a D4 straight blade unit with the four tooth rippers and also a D4 angle blade with one at each end of the blade (handy when cutting into a bank) but I'm not shure how they got there.

I don't recall seeing them mounted directly to the C-Frame but don't see why not although your units would not have the storage feature. Could be there is not enough room for that style bracket before you run into the tractor nose.
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Sun, Jul 14, 2013 9:27 AM
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As I stated in the other post, they were not a Cat supplied item. Strictly aftermarket and still being manufactured for later units today (and still contraversial). Where they are quite common is on Military spec. dozers from D4 to D8 back in the day. The usual configuration is four rippers on the straight blade with brackets that allow the swing operation of the rippers and when they are not in use the pins can be pulled and the teeth inserted upside down and repinned so they are out of service.

I have a D4 straight blade unit with the four tooth rippers and also a D4 angle blade with one at each end of the blade (handy when cutting into a bank) but I'm not shure how they got there.

I don't recall seeing them mounted directly to the C-Frame but don't see why not although your units would not have the storage feature. Could be there is not enough room for that style bracket before you run into the tractor nose.
Hello , browsed through my files and found spec sheet of Preco back ripper teeth . They were offered by Preco in the mid 55's . Preco also offered many more , even a half automatic system for grader work . The teeth fold up while dozing and can work as rippers while backing up . It was offered for the bigger Cats . To my opinion it was cruel on sprocket-bushings . Some years ago I met this D6C ex-army where also these teeth were mounted , perhaps for holding the machine under heavy winching .
The Netherlands , johan7[attachment=18555]Preco.jpg[/attachment][attachment=18556]Preco 2.jpg[/attachment][attachment=18557]DSC00881.jpg[/attachment]
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Sun, Jul 14, 2013 7:04 PM
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Hello , browsed through my files and found spec sheet of Preco back ripper teeth . They were offered by Preco in the mid 55's . Preco also offered many more , even a half automatic system for grader work . The teeth fold up while dozing and can work as rippers while backing up . It was offered for the bigger Cats . To my opinion it was cruel on sprocket-bushings . Some years ago I met this D6C ex-army where also these teeth were mounted , perhaps for holding the machine under heavy winching .
The Netherlands , johan7[attachment=18555]Preco.jpg[/attachment][attachment=18556]Preco 2.jpg[/attachment][attachment=18557]DSC00881.jpg[/attachment]
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Thanks Johan. You may have put me on the right track with Preco, did a bit of googling and came up with a patent from 53-54 and a picture of a very similar set up on a D8 C frame. Can you scan the spec sheet that you said you had
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Sun, Jul 14, 2013 9:07 PM
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Reply to D349:
Thanks Johan. You may have put me on the right track with Preco, did a bit of googling and came up with a patent from 53-54 and a picture of a very similar set up on a D8 C frame. Can you scan the spec sheet that you said you had
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Here is a source for current versions...
http://www.vailproducts.com/gen_angle_blades.htm
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Sun, Jul 14, 2013 9:30 PM
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Here is a source for current versions...
http://www.vailproducts.com/gen_angle_blades.htm
Rogers....the same people that made the Rogers Trailers used to make a clip on ripper(plow) for dozer blades. I had two that I would mount on a D-7 blade to rip rock or soften hard ground. They came in handy for cable blade tractors and before I had a dozer with a ripper.

Tried to find a picture or site for them so I could show you how they worked but couldn't ...sorry.
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Sun, Jul 14, 2013 10:09 PM
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Rogers....the same people that made the Rogers Trailers used to make a clip on ripper(plow) for dozer blades. I had two that I would mount on a D-7 blade to rip rock or soften hard ground. They came in handy for cable blade tractors and before I had a dozer with a ripper.

Tried to find a picture or site for them so I could show you how they worked but couldn't ...sorry.
Old 3T,
Are you referring to these?

Also known as equalizer spring breakers as they could really put a load on them.
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Sun, Jul 14, 2013 10:39 PM
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Old 3T,
Are you referring to these?

Also known as equalizer spring breakers as they could really put a load on them.
you can see some in action here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayXPGpCVN8k
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Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:24 PM
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you can see some in action here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayXPGpCVN8k
I have been wanting to adapt a ripper tooth that I could pin on the front of the blade on my cable D8. The blade raises 4' off the ground and is 4' high. I figure if I could find an 8' ripper shank like I have seen on 8K's and 9's I could pin it on in front of the left track where I could watch it. My D8 is set up for 3 backup rippers. I have one shank but it will not go very deep. I would like to rip DG for fruit trees.
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Mon, Jul 15, 2013 1:13 AM
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Old 3T,
Are you referring to these?

Also known as equalizer spring breakers as they could really put a load on them.
[quote="Old Magnet"]Old 3T,
Are you referring to these?

Also known as equalizer spring breakers as they could really put a load on them.[/quote]

Hey, that's it exactly. They really came in handy sometimes.

As for equalizer, I never broke a spring but I did buy a few with broken springs. I usually replaced three 1'' thickness D-7 springs with two 1 1/2" D-8 springs or a solid bar. Once I bought a stick of hot roll metal 1"x6"x20' and made a solid bar for a D-7. It served me well for 10 years before I sold it 30 years ago and when last seen 4 or 5 years ago, it was still under there.
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Mon, Jul 15, 2013 3:21 AM
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[quote="Old Magnet"]Old 3T,
Are you referring to these?

Also known as equalizer spring breakers as they could really put a load on them.[/quote]

Hey, that's it exactly. They really came in handy sometimes.

As for equalizer, I never broke a spring but I did buy a few with broken springs. I usually replaced three 1'' thickness D-7 springs with two 1 1/2" D-8 springs or a solid bar. Once I bought a stick of hot roll metal 1"x6"x20' and made a solid bar for a D-7. It served me well for 10 years before I sold it 30 years ago and when last seen 4 or 5 years ago, it was still under there.
My dad always told me when he went to Florida he would see D8's in the fields with a ripper on the front of the "C" frame ripping corral. I have seen pics of a stump rooter that Fleco made to attach on the frames too.
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Mon, Jul 15, 2013 6:38 AM
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