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Anyone know where to get these springs for a 9u

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Tydavis
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Does anyone have any of these for sale or know where to buy a new one? I just need the bottom spring the one set the eye is broke off the one side and the other set is really thin and about to break. I called cat and they say are no longer available. I've been told the d4 have the same spring but idk if that is true or not.
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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 7:56 AM
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Lots of folks build one as a hard bar like the loader Cats have. A bit rougher ride as it is solid but almost un-noticable on a play Cat.
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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 8:17 AM
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Lots of folks build one as a hard bar like the loader Cats have. A bit rougher ride as it is solid but almost un-noticable on a play Cat.
Take the spring to a truck spring shop, they should be able to make a new leaf for it or a whole new spring if that is what you want. I have had that done for some Cletrac springs.
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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 8:23 AM
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Lots of folks build one as a hard bar like the loader Cats have. A bit rougher ride as it is solid but almost un-noticable on a play Cat.
Hi, Tydavis.
I'm no expert but I suspect that a truck spring of similar dimensions and rating would do the trick. Might not be 'jen-u-wine' but may be cheaper that the real thing. and paint it rusty yellow and who is gonna know?

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 8:23 AM
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Lots of folks build one as a hard bar like the loader Cats have. A bit rougher ride as it is solid but almost un-noticable on a play Cat.



Do you happen to have a picture of one?
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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 8:32 AM
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Do you happen to have a picture of one?
Hi, Tydavis.
The loader Cats and the later dozers have a hard bar that has eyes on the ends which connect directly to the track frames and also help control track alignment. The earlier dozers that had hard bars had flat ends on the hard bars that rested on pads on the track frame and only carried the weight of the engine and main frame with no alignment function. The earlier Cat track loaders, pre the rear-engined hydrostatic drive machines had a solid mounting with no oscillation. THAT could be rough.

If I am 'reading' your photo correctly, that spring is the retainer spring that fits under the main spring and holds the equalizer spring in place and stops the engine from rearing over backwards under load. Any 1/2-way decent spring works should be able to make you a new main leaf for the better spring set that you have.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 8:59 AM
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Hi, Tydavis.
The loader Cats and the later dozers have a hard bar that has eyes on the ends which connect directly to the track frames and also help control track alignment. The earlier dozers that had hard bars had flat ends on the hard bars that rested on pads on the track frame and only carried the weight of the engine and main frame with no alignment function. The earlier Cat track loaders, pre the rear-engined hydrostatic drive machines had a solid mounting with no oscillation. THAT could be rough.

If I am 'reading' your photo correctly, that spring is the retainer spring that fits under the main spring and holds the equalizer spring in place and stops the engine from rearing over backwards under load. Any 1/2-way decent spring works should be able to make you a new main leaf for the better spring set that you have.

Just my 0.02.
[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, Tydavis.
The loader Cats and the later dozers have a hard bar that has eyes on the ends which connect directly to the track frames and also help control track alignment. The earlier dozers that had hard bars had flat ends on the hard bars that rested on pads on the track frame and only carried the weight of the engine and main frame with no alignment function. The earlier Cat track loaders, pre the rear-engined hydrostatic drive machines had a solid mounting with no oscillation. THAT could be rough.

If I am 'reading' your photo correctly, that spring is the retainer spring that fits under the main spring and holds the equalizer spring in place and stops the engine from rearing over backwards under load. Any 1/2-way decent spring works should be able to make you a new main leaf for the better spring set that you have.

Just my 0.02.[/quote]

Deas Plant you are correct on it being the retainer spring. Thanks for the info. I live in the middle of nowhere in southern ne. I'll try and call a spring shop that's kind of close and see what they say. Does anyone happen to know the weight capacity of the springs? Could you just make kind of a solid bar that replaces the retainer springs and keep the equalizer springs the way they are? Or would it need to be able to give some?
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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 9:06 AM
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[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, Tydavis.
The loader Cats and the later dozers have a hard bar that has eyes on the ends which connect directly to the track frames and also help control track alignment. The earlier dozers that had hard bars had flat ends on the hard bars that rested on pads on the track frame and only carried the weight of the engine and main frame with no alignment function. The earlier Cat track loaders, pre the rear-engined hydrostatic drive machines had a solid mounting with no oscillation. THAT could be rough.

If I am 'reading' your photo correctly, that spring is the retainer spring that fits under the main spring and holds the equalizer spring in place and stops the engine from rearing over backwards under load. Any 1/2-way decent spring works should be able to make you a new main leaf for the better spring set that you have.

Just my 0.02.[/quote]

Deas Plant you are correct on it being the retainer spring. Thanks for the info. I live in the middle of nowhere in southern ne. I'll try and call a spring shop that's kind of close and see what they say. Does anyone happen to know the weight capacity of the springs? Could you just make kind of a solid bar that replaces the retainer springs and keep the equalizer springs the way they are? Or would it need to be able to give some?
Hi Tydavis.
I think it would have to have some 'give' in it 'cos I think the main spring has a rolling contact under the tractor. If you take the whole spring to the spring works, they ought to be able to get pretty close to what the original main leaf specs were/are. Spring making is a pretty exact 'science' these days.

I have travelled across NE several times on I80. There did seem to be some long stretches with not very much to see while other stretches hadda lotta 'eye candy'. I did it in Spring/Summer. From the look of all those drift fences, I don't think I'd like your state in Winter. Then again, I may be spoiled. I've been through the last 20-odd winters around where I live and pulled on a jacket ONCE in the day time.

On another note, it can sometimes help others to help you if your location is shown on your posts as there may be somebody fairly close to you with what you need.

Just my 0.02. Hope it helps

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 10:26 AM
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Hi Tydavis.
I think it would have to have some 'give' in it 'cos I think the main spring has a rolling contact under the tractor. If you take the whole spring to the spring works, they ought to be able to get pretty close to what the original main leaf specs were/are. Spring making is a pretty exact 'science' these days.

I have travelled across NE several times on I80. There did seem to be some long stretches with not very much to see while other stretches hadda lotta 'eye candy'. I did it in Spring/Summer. From the look of all those drift fences, I don't think I'd like your state in Winter. Then again, I may be spoiled. I've been through the last 20-odd winters around where I live and pulled on a jacket ONCE in the day time.

On another note, it can sometimes help others to help you if your location is shown on your posts as there may be somebody fairly close to you with what you need.

Just my 0.02. Hope it helps
If you go the used replacement route try to find them from a 8U/9U that has not been running a belly pan. Seems that's where the rubbing at the spring eyes takes place.
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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 12:40 PM
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i may have one but it's under the snow right now,

i think you should easily be able to find one, dpendzic, did you buy two d6's recently? wasn't one of them a parts unit?
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Mon, Feb 20, 2017 10:44 PM
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i may have one but it's under the snow right now,

i think you should easily be able to find one, dpendzic, did you buy two d6's recently? wasn't one of them a parts unit?
yes I do have a d6 9u parts machine===but until i get into my fixer upper i don't want to let too many parts go until i see what I need--hopefully i will finish up my D47U this year and get into the D6---let alone the prodding to get a D8!!! this yellow fever without my friends pushing it is a challenge!! :violin:
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Tue, Feb 21, 2017 4:42 AM
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