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a question about 4S blade bushing replacement

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the outboard bushings on my D4 with a 4S blade need to be replaced. how do i get the triangle blade lift and shaft out of the tractor so i can get at the bushings?
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Wed, Sep 13, 2017 8:29 PM
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Remove the inner cross tube support. That will expose a round two bolt flange retainer that once removed allows the cross shaft to slide out. Expect the cross shaft to be well worn on the outboard side. Seems Cat used a butter brinnel hardness shaft for this application.
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Wed, Sep 13, 2017 11:24 PM
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Remove the inner cross tube support. That will expose a round two bolt flange retainer that once removed allows the cross shaft to slide out. Expect the cross shaft to be well worn on the outboard side. Seems Cat used a butter brinnel hardness shaft for this application.


is the inner cross tube support bolted to the track frame via a threaded bar?
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Thu, Sep 14, 2017 12:23 AM
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is the inner cross tube support bolted to the track frame via a threaded bar?
I would assume there is a nut plate in there but I haven't been inside to check. They are definitely not individual bolts and nuts. They are the same tapered head (wheel bolt) type as used for the trunion mounts. Why do you ask?
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Thu, Sep 14, 2017 12:42 AM
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I would assume there is a nut plate in there but I haven't been inside to check. They are definitely not individual bolts and nuts. They are the same tapered head (wheel bolt) type as used for the trunion mounts. Why do you ask?
If i remember correctly you have to remove bolts that hold the support to the track frame, i left one bolt in so i could pivot the support out of the way of the end of the shaft to get to the keeper plate. The inboard bearings on mine were hardly worn.
there was no evidence of outboard bearings (bushings)-so installed 2 new outboard bearings,built up the shaft in that area and also installed 2 new seals
be prepared for a lot of grease when you remove that shaft---took 132 pumps of my grease gun to refill![attachment=44673]D4 blade 002.jpg[/attachment]
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Thu, Sep 14, 2017 2:53 AM
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If i remember correctly you have to remove bolts that hold the support to the track frame, i left one bolt in so i could pivot the support out of the way of the end of the shaft to get to the keeper plate. The inboard bearings on mine were hardly worn.
there was no evidence of outboard bearings (bushings)-so installed 2 new outboard bearings,built up the shaft in that area and also installed 2 new seals
be prepared for a lot of grease when you remove that shaft---took 132 pumps of my grease gun to refill![attachment=44673]D4 blade 002.jpg[/attachment]
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[quote="dpendzic"]If i remember correctly you have to remove bolts that hold the support to the track frame, i left one bolt in so i could pivot the support out of the way of the end of the shaft to get to the keeper plate. The inboard bearings on mine were hardly worn.
there was no evidence of outboard bearings (bushings)-so installed 2 new outboard bearings,built up the shaft in that area and also installed 2 new seals
be prepared for a lot of grease when you remove that shaft---took 132 pumps of my grease gun to refill![/quote]


were the bolts in the track frame seized? did you soak them with penetrate first and if you did how did you get it inside the track frame? did you use an impact wrench to get the bolts loose?😮hwell:
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Thu, Sep 14, 2017 7:50 PM
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I would assume there is a nut plate in there but I haven't been inside to check. They are definitely not individual bolts and nuts. They are the same tapered head (wheel bolt) type as used for the trunion mounts. Why do you ask?


Thanks Magnet. why do i ask? just getting prepared so i won't have any surprises.
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Thu, Sep 14, 2017 7:51 PM
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[quote="dpendzic"]If i remember correctly you have to remove bolts that hold the support to the track frame, i left one bolt in so i could pivot the support out of the way of the end of the shaft to get to the keeper plate. The inboard bearings on mine were hardly worn.
there was no evidence of outboard bearings (bushings)-so installed 2 new outboard bearings,built up the shaft in that area and also installed 2 new seals
be prepared for a lot of grease when you remove that shaft---took 132 pumps of my grease gun to refill![/quote]


were the bolts in the track frame seized? did you soak them with penetrate first and if you did how did you get it inside the track frame? did you use an impact wrench to get the bolts loose?😮hwell:


yes--some were seized---soak them for a week from the outside with kroil oil and beat on the heads to get the oil to penetrate. big breaker bar with a pipe--snapped one off but since it wasn't on the edge of the bracket and had less stress than the edge ones i just left it--can't remember if there were 3 or 4 bolts
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Thu, Sep 14, 2017 10:50 PM
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yes--some were seized---soak them for a week from the outside with kroil oil and beat on the heads to get the oil to penetrate. big breaker bar with a pipe--snapped one off but since it wasn't on the edge of the bracket and had less stress than the edge ones i just left it--can't remember if there were 3 or 4 bolts
Yes on four bolts and I used the big hydraulic rattle gun. One side had loose inner support that hogged out the tapered holes. Used one of the mounting bolts and a socket to press hardened washers to match the taper as a repair.
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