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9U with Ransomes plough

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See here the D6 9U that came from Ken Heer from Pendelton .

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https://youtu.be/cwp6n89JD28
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Tue, Apr 17, 2018 3:02 AM
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Looking good Gilbert. I laughed when the guy pointed out the converging furrows, as if you had something to do with it : )
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Tue, Apr 17, 2018 8:19 AM
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Looking good Gilbert. I laughed when the guy pointed out the converging furrows, as if you had something to do with it : )
Hi It never ceases to amaze me why everybody that showing photos or videos of ploughing that they all use a fixed drawbar .when I was taught to plough some 60 odd years ago or more in New Zealand we always ploughed with the draw bar sliding and then the plough ploughed and the tractor pulled it with out flicking the front furrow everywhere on hill country at 35 to 40degrees it was the only way that you can plough If the plough is set up it will follow the tractor cause when ploughing was done with horses they only pulled the plough and it followed them
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Tue, Apr 17, 2018 12:46 PM
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Hi It never ceases to amaze me why everybody that showing photos or videos of ploughing that they all use a fixed drawbar .when I was taught to plough some 60 odd years ago or more in New Zealand we always ploughed with the draw bar sliding and then the plough ploughed and the tractor pulled it with out flicking the front furrow everywhere on hill country at 35 to 40degrees it was the only way that you can plough If the plough is set up it will follow the tractor cause when ploughing was done with horses they only pulled the plough and it followed them
Tutuilla!!
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Tue, May 8, 2018 10:22 AM
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Tutuilla!!
HOLLANDCAT: that was a nice video. TractorDon once asked me which of my tractors was my fave; I fibbed and told him just like ones children, you couldn’t have ONE favorite...well, okay, I fibbed, I’m partial to the 9U series...love how the 318 purrs with the. 6 cylinder engine, the boosted steering and the comfortable ride.
Seems yours has a distinct sound to it, as if it has extra ponies trying to run free! I wish mine sounded that good.
Thanks for sharing. JM
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Tue, May 8, 2018 9:03 PM
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HOLLANDCAT: that was a nice video. TractorDon once asked me which of my tractors was my fave; I fibbed and told him just like ones children, you couldn’t have ONE favorite...well, okay, I fibbed, I’m partial to the 9U series...love how the 318 purrs with the. 6 cylinder engine, the boosted steering and the comfortable ride.
Seems yours has a distinct sound to it, as if it has extra ponies trying to run free! I wish mine sounded that good.
Thanks for sharing. JM
Hi Team,
scan below, from Yellow Father, may help explain what is being suggested by our NZ (Kiwi) mate.
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Eddie B.
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Wed, May 9, 2018 10:25 AM
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Hi Team,
scan below, from Yellow Father, may help explain what is being suggested by our NZ (Kiwi) mate.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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A lot of D-8 14A's on up were/are used for farming and have a ridged drawbar so that wouldn't be an option.
D-4 7U-43159 with 4S dozer and Cat 40 scraper, D-7 3T-1179 with Cat 7S hydraulic dozer, D-7 17A 13,944, D-8 14A-1160 with Cat 8S cable dozer, Cat 12-99E-4433 Grader. All runners and users.
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Wed, May 9, 2018 10:55 AM
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A lot of D-8 14A's on up were/are used for farming and have a ridged drawbar so that wouldn't be an option.
I was browsing machinerytrader (like I usually do to admire old pieces of junk) and see that the H was available with both fixed and swinging drawbars. Those units that ATI has for rent / sale are ag tractors and have swinging drawbars (and the ad makes a point of pointing that out) so I got to wondering if anything other than tillage implements would benefit from swinging drawbar?
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Wed, May 9, 2018 6:53 PM
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I was browsing machinerytrader (like I usually do to admire old pieces of junk) and see that the H was available with both fixed and swinging drawbars. Those units that ATI has for rent / sale are ag tractors and have swinging drawbars (and the ad makes a point of pointing that out) so I got to wondering if anything other than tillage implements would benefit from swinging drawbar?


Thanks for asking the question, Similar to you, I keep seeing a lot of discussion on drawbars how, why and what make. I always thought; a drawbar was a drawbar was a drawbar. If someone could even start a thread on drawbar education I surely would appreciate it. In my life, if a Cat didn't have a drum on it it didn't have a purpose.....
I'm not afraid of hard work; I can lay down beside it anytime and take a nap.
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Wed, May 9, 2018 8:57 PM
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Thanks for asking the question, Similar to you, I keep seeing a lot of discussion on drawbars how, why and what make. I always thought; a drawbar was a drawbar was a drawbar. If someone could even start a thread on drawbar education I surely would appreciate it. In my life, if a Cat didn't have a drum on it it didn't have a purpose.....
This reminds me of lessons learned at an early age. As a preteen, “my” tractor was a tailseat D47U7901? My brother always liked draw bars fixed solid so they couldn’t swing; his preferred tractor was our trusty IH 544 wheel tractor....
I liked to pin the D4 drawbar or “stop” in this case so it would partially swing, but he didn’t like that. He demanded I pin it “solid” because he couldn’t stand the thought of it moving freely side to side? Not to be the smart*ss little brother, I did what he wanted.
Some of you know what happens when you make hard left turns with a disc.
With short headlands(the end of the field) I would have to make a HARD left due to lack of space, as there wasn’t much room between the last row of young trees and the new wooden fence lines. Well, let’s see: I think I took out a tree at the end of some rows, because I would be forcing the disc into the tree while making the turn to the left....just following orders!
I didn’t like the results, so I unpinned so it could swing to the left. Problem solved. Our dad was happier too, as he didn’t have to re-plant each tree I knocked out!
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Wed, May 9, 2018 9:41 PM
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This reminds me of lessons learned at an early age. As a preteen, “my” tractor was a tailseat D47U7901? My brother always liked draw bars fixed solid so they couldn’t swing; his preferred tractor was our trusty IH 544 wheel tractor....
I liked to pin the D4 drawbar or “stop” in this case so it would partially swing, but he didn’t like that. He demanded I pin it “solid” because he couldn’t stand the thought of it moving freely side to side? Not to be the smart*ss little brother, I did what he wanted.
Some of you know what happens when you make hard left turns with a disc.
With short headlands(the end of the field) I would have to make a HARD left due to lack of space, as there wasn’t much room between the last row of young trees and the new wooden fence lines. Well, let’s see: I think I took out a tree at the end of some rows, because I would be forcing the disc into the tree while making the turn to the left....just following orders!
I didn’t like the results, so I unpinned so it could swing to the left. Problem solved. Our dad was happier too, as he didn’t have to re-plant each tree I knocked out!
I have never pulled anything except scrapers and rollers with a crawler. Never used a swinging drawbar but it makes sense when you look at the results of offsetting the pull of the load.

Maybe going down a hill with a loaded scraper dictates a fixed drawbar for that work. With it swinging and going downhill it could turn out to be quite a ride! Even with a fixed drawbar, it is exciting to look back at the bottom of the hill and see your scraper has turned upside down! I never felt a thing and the D8 didn't seem to care. Don't ask me how I know this!

JanM
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Wed, May 9, 2018 10:06 PM
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