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PhilC
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Hello All
Does anyone know if there is rebuild information available for the idler slides on a 955K or L track frame. Mine has been repaired in the past by adding spacers on top of the track frame which has lifted the idler up and out of alignment with the track adjuster. I have it all dismantled and want to return it to original specs.

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Phil
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Fri, Mar 17, 2023 4:31 PM
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Nothing published that I am aware of. Would have to refer to Engineering Drawings.
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Sat, Mar 18, 2023 12:16 AM
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Nothing published that I am aware of. Would have to refer to Engineering Drawings.
Hi, PhilC.
Rather than adding material to the tops of the rails, I would think you would need to re-build the undersides of the guides on the insides of the rails that hold the idlers down in alignment with the adjusters. They make wear pads and springs for the idler mounts that ride on the tops of the rails to hold the tension against those lower guides.

All the weight of the machine is pushing down on the idler and forcing it up against those guides and so the real wear is going to be on those guides and the sections of the idler mounts that come into contact with them.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sat, Mar 18, 2023 1:38 AM
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Hi, PhilC.
Rather than adding material to the tops of the rails, I would think you would need to re-build the undersides of the guides on the insides of the rails that hold the idlers down in alignment with the adjusters. They make wear pads and springs for the idler mounts that ride on the tops of the rails to hold the tension against those lower guides.

All the weight of the machine is pushing down on the idler and forcing it up against those guides and so the real wear is going to be on those guides and the sections of the idler mounts that come into contact with them.

Just my 0.02.
Thanks OM
I think I'll just get as close to center as possible.

Deas
I should have stated it wasn't me that fixed it that way. Machine was badly abused by a previous owner. Both track frames had been 'repaired" in that fashion and one side was missing it's first roller. Multiple bolts were missing or broken so they welded the track frames to the mainframe. Sump oil used in the hydraulics and the left final was so badly destroyed that I don't know how it kept driving long enough to get that bad.
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Sat, Mar 18, 2023 3:53 PM
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Thanks OM
I think I'll just get as close to center as possible.

Deas
I should have stated it wasn't me that fixed it that way. Machine was badly abused by a previous owner. Both track frames had been 'repaired" in that fashion and one side was missing it's first roller. Multiple bolts were missing or broken so they welded the track frames to the mainframe. Sump oil used in the hydraulics and the left final was so badly destroyed that I don't know how it kept driving long enough to get that bad.
Hi, PhilC.
And I never said that it was you who had done the previous 'rebuild'. I 'figgered' out a while back that you knew more than to do things like that.

Sounds like the machine deserves a medal for surviving its previous owner.

If the idler mount flanges that come into contact with the guides inside the rails are severely worn, they can be rebuilt, either with bulk weld or by welding wear strips to them. However you rebuild them, it needs to be some fairly hard material but not SOOOPER hard to the point where it would be brittle. Ditto with the guides inside the track rails.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sat, Mar 18, 2023 7:13 PM
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Hi, PhilC.
And I never said that it was you who had done the previous 'rebuild'. I 'figgered' out a while back that you knew more than to do things like that.

Sounds like the machine deserves a medal for surviving its previous owner.

If the idler mount flanges that come into contact with the guides inside the rails are severely worn, they can be rebuilt, either with bulk weld or by welding wear strips to them. However you rebuild them, it needs to be some fairly hard material but not SOOOPER hard to the point where it would be brittle. Ditto with the guides inside the track rails.

Just my 0.02.
i watched a video recently and they were repcing track assemblies on a john deere dozer it had wear shims for the front idler bearing blocks so the idler mounts could be adjusted. prehaps this could be done to bring yours back into position. the vid was on youtube from c&c equipment in idaho. they specialise in ex military machinery and trucks.

"i reject your reality and substitute my own" - adam savage. i suspect my final words maybe "well shit, that didnt work"

instead of perfection some times we just have to accept practicality

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Sat, Mar 18, 2023 7:45 PM
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