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318D Head Precombustion chamber seals

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I've had a head in at the machine shop for way too long. They're trying to find the part number for the seal that goes on the bottom of the pre-combustion chamber of a Cat 318D head. The head casting number on the head is 7F7878. From what they told me, I need a sealing washer that goes on the bottom of the chamber where it threads into the head itself. Does anyone have access to a manual that might have the part number that I need? Our local Cat dealer must not have anyone old enough to know how to get that info....all I run in to is dead ends. Thanks for your help!
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Original part # 5B3265 or 7H0737 replaced by 9H4885
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Sat, Apr 5, 2014 7:37 AM
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Do your PC chambers have glow plugs? There are different thickness sealing washers to align the glow plug holes so the wiring harness will hook up. Plain chambers use the regular thickness ones.
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Sat, Apr 5, 2014 10:21 AM
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Do your PC chambers have glow plugs? There are different thickness sealing washers to align the glow plug holes so the wiring harness will hook up. Plain chambers use the regular thickness ones.
That's correct but the shim washers are used so that the glow plugs do not interfere with the fuel injector lines.
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Sat, Apr 5, 2014 1:02 PM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
That's correct but the shim washers are used so that the glow plugs do not interfere with the fuel injector lines.
Hi Team,
as CCJ and Om said, these washers allow the glow plugs to miss vital injection lines, rocker cover, wiring etc.
As best as I can recall these washers were supplied with each new glow plug type pre-chamber.

Washers were either colour coded and/or simply numbered with a 1, or 2 etc. after the P/No as to thickness.
A supplied segmented chart allowed one to select the correct washer. Different charts were used for different engine models.
The chamber was first assembled into the head with a standard washer and, depending where on the segmented chart the glow plug hole was situated, that decided, from the chart, which washer to use.

I recall these coloured washers were kept in the head rebuild area, at The Dealer, on a board, on hooks, in order of thickness.

Cannot recall if in later days the washers were given a separate Part Number for a particular thickness etc.

Have looked in my old literature but have not found anything.
A check with The Dealer's "Numerical Parts Record" using the standard washer Part Number may come up with a Service Magazine, or another publication like a Special Instruction telling of these possible later Part Numbers.

3 pages of Service Magazine May 21 1957 covers the segmented charts I refer to above.

I will look tomorrow for more data and post the above Serv. Mag. article when I fire up the old XP desk top that is compatible with my steam driven scanner.

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Eddie B.
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Sat, Apr 5, 2014 3:13 PM
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Hi Team,
as CCJ and Om said, these washers allow the glow plugs to miss vital injection lines, rocker cover, wiring etc.
As best as I can recall these washers were supplied with each new glow plug type pre-chamber.

Washers were either colour coded and/or simply numbered with a 1, or 2 etc. after the P/No as to thickness.
A supplied segmented chart allowed one to select the correct washer. Different charts were used for different engine models.
The chamber was first assembled into the head with a standard washer and, depending where on the segmented chart the glow plug hole was situated, that decided, from the chart, which washer to use.

I recall these coloured washers were kept in the head rebuild area, at The Dealer, on a board, on hooks, in order of thickness.

Cannot recall if in later days the washers were given a separate Part Number for a particular thickness etc.

Have looked in my old literature but have not found anything.
A check with The Dealer's "Numerical Parts Record" using the standard washer Part Number may come up with a Service Magazine, or another publication like a Special Instruction telling of these possible later Part Numbers.

3 pages of Service Magazine May 21 1957 covers the segmented charts I refer to above.

I will look tomorrow for more data and post the above Serv. Mag. article when I fire up the old XP desk top that is compatible with my steam driven scanner.

Cheers,
Eddie B.
Hi Team,
as promised.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Sun, Apr 6, 2014 7:29 AM
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Hi Team,
as promised.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Here is the various thicknesses of pre-com/glo plug chamber gaskets and part numbers for the D315 and D318.
0.0645 (standard) =9H4885=5B3265=7H0737
0.0505..... 9H4886
0.0355..... 9H4887
0.1015..... 9H4882
0.0905..... 9H4884
0.0805..... 9H4883
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Sun, Apr 6, 2014 8:01 AM
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Here is the various thicknesses of pre-com/glo plug chamber gaskets and part numbers for the D315 and D318.
0.0645 (standard) =9H4885=5B3265=7H0737
0.0505..... 9H4886
0.0355..... 9H4887
0.1015..... 9H4882
0.0905..... 9H4884
0.0805..... 9H4883
Hi OM,
thanks for the data.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Sun, Apr 6, 2014 9:36 AM
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Hi OM,
thanks for the data.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
Hi Team,
even though this thread is for D315/8 engines I have added these so they are posted somewhere for future reference.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Sun, Apr 6, 2014 12:13 PM
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Reply to edb:
Hi Team,
even though this thread is for D315/8 engines I have added these so they are posted somewhere for future reference.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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This is a good one for the Technical Library
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