22 pivot shaft rebuild dimensions

The pivot shaft on a wide guage is the same as on a standard guage. It just bolts to the roller frames in a different position. I think it would be much cheaper to locate another pivot shaft. Lotd of 22s around. - Wally
I will correct myself before someone else does. I was thinking of the spring. - Sorry

OK,,, i hadn't considered a different one ,,, anyone got one and how much? PM me or call.. Thought i might be able to weld it up myself and turn it down cheaper ,,, maybe not. thanks, Dave

I made a new one for my wide 22 when I restored it. It wasn't hard to machine, just heavy to work with. I just measured the parts that weren't worn and machined the chaft to that diameter, I also used the washers on the end because mine appeared to be correct. Jeremy

I just had my D2 shaft welded up and turned down to size, it is easy to do, hardest part is carrying the shaft into and out of the local Engineering shop, oh, and coming up with the $300 they charged me to do it, get a quote first😆
Good luck
Mike

yikes ,, I will try to do it myself for that reason,,I have" more time than money" on some things, maybe things will change if i hit the lottery...where did you guys get your bushing stock to make the necessary bushings??,,, just came back from the local Cat dealer in Madison and everything on the pivot shaft( and lots of other small parts) is unavailable or obsolete...I think i figured out a way to determine the length of the spacers, but if someone has original dimensions somewhere i would be very interested... dave

Just buy some suitable diameter bronze pipe from a local foundry, Engineering shop, or bearing shop, it's easy to find, here in Australia it cost me about $US90 for a 12" length, but you will need around 17" in total I think to make 4 new bushes assuming it is similar to the D2.

Just run a bead of arc weld down the inside of the old bearings to shrink them slightly, then they will drive out with a few good belts with a hammer. They are an "interference" fit from new, so allow around 1 thou per inch of bearing diameter when machining the new ones and put them in the freezer overnight before driving them in.

When welding up that old shaft some folks like to preheat it first, then weld a couple of beads at a time on opposite sides of the shaft, not opposite ends, opposite sides. This apparently helps prevent the new welds twisting or bowing the shaft. I've been told to put the shaft in a box of lime powder too, to slow down the cooling process.

I did my D2 shaft over a few days, didn't preheat it and didn't use lime and had no problems at all, and that's how my Fitter and Turner neighbour told me how to do it, I just didn't get it really hot each time.

My ACME buddy "Farmer3" up in New York State paid about $150 from memory to have his D2 shaft welded up and machined back down by a local Engineering shop, and that is a good price because it takes quite some time.

My 22 wrecks are narrow guage, so don't think you want my spacer details, but there are lots of wide 22's in the USA, someone should chime in soon.
regards
Mike

I have a pair of bushings left over from my D2 job that I did.

Can anyone tell me if these will fit the 22??

I am ready to send them on to Wisconsin if they will fit.

Joe

Dave,your full up and I can't send anymore pm .

Your message in the phone machine I believe said inside measured2.375 and outside measured 2.625

I don't have a micrometer handy-measured with inside and outside calipers and got 2and 15/16 inside and 3 and 3/8 ouside.

I started a thread on ACME and got an answer from Northwind with this link for bronze bushings

http://www.asbbearings.com/ Hope this helps ,Joe

I cleaned out my in box,,, did not know how full is full..... empty now....joe,,, it does not look like your bushings are the same or even close.... my shaft is 2.375 and the bushing od is 2.625 MOL.... will call you tonite or tomorrow...I did get my shaft welded up today though... Dave