212 Graders: 9T 359 and 9T 4161

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bernie

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Hey-
OK-my initial post sent before I was ready, so ignore it-I am starting again and will hopefully delete the first one that OM replied to. This is what I get bouncing between phone and laptop.....

I have a chance to buy for scrap within 100 miles two of these graders. #4161 is a parts machine, and the guy purchased that way-never ran for him and doesnt know why it was set out for scrap.

The other machine #359 was running a few weeks ago doing misc. road and drive maintenance grading. I've seen / heard it running a few times. The owner thinks maybe the injector cracked a piston head or something in a cylinder failed. This one I think is an electric start conversion and the #4161 still has its starting engine. I believe the #359 has its starting engine on a pallet. He was talking about selling the #359 a while ago due to not being big enough-at that point I was considering buying it then for a snow plow at the farm.

I have looked into the Tech Pages and cannot determine very well what engine parts may be compatible with my D4400 2TD4. Fuel tower-injectors-starting pinion set up-radiator-water pump-fuel system.... etc.

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Tue, Apr 19, 2022 7:54 AM

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For scrap price how can you go wrong?? Wish we had some scrap Cats here in Kansas.

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Tue, Apr 19, 2022 10:48 AM

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For scrap price how can you go wrong?? Wish we had some scrap Cats here in Kansas.

Well, I can’t argue your point, even with scrap prices up.

Looking into it more here on ACMOC I think the engines are D311’s. Not much matching my D4 as far as I can tell. Good match for a D2 I think.

With both machines maybe I can get the #359 operational. The guy that has them is top notch-I’m hoping to get over to see them tomorrow.

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Tue, Apr 19, 2022 11:12 AM

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Well, I can’t argue your point, even with scrap prices up.

Looking into it more here on ACMOC I think the engines are D311’s. Not much matching my D4 as far as I can tell. Good match for a D2 I think.

With both machines maybe I can get the #359 operational. The guy that has them is top notch-I’m hoping to get over to see them tomorrow.

even if you get it working and on sell it yourself. never know you might be able to horse trade it for a machine our parts you need.

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Tue, Apr 19, 2022 4:45 PM

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even if you get it working and on sell it yourself. never know you might be able to horse trade it for a machine our parts you need.

I’m passing on this-good points but no building space and can’t justify it.

Anyone interested? I know he wants to move it out, so give me a shout if so. Located just west of Terre Haute IN.

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Tue, Apr 19, 2022 6:49 PM

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See below [attachment=67440]446BB1F5-D9F3-4234-BCA6-8020C305E859.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=67440]446BB1F5-D9F3-4234-BCA6-8020C305E859.jpeg[/attachment][attachment=67441]596A7474-3F27-4394-8C83-4C1086B1E7F3.jpeg[/attachment][attachment=67442]81B0A17A-3EFB-4620-8B7A-2A728F7BD1DA.jpeg[/attachment]

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See below [attachment=67440]446BB1F5-D9F3-4234-BCA6-8020C305E859.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=67440]446BB1F5-D9F3-4234-BCA6-8020C305E859.jpeg[/attachment][attachment=67441]596A7474-3F27-4394-8C83-4C1086B1E7F3.jpeg[/attachment][attachment=67442]81B0A17A-3EFB-4620-8B7A-2A728F7BD1DA.jpeg[/attachment]

I might add .. in an earlier post on the D318 in a No. 12 Motor Grader was slightly different from D318's built for other applications. I'm not 100% sure but I think it had to do something with the crank.
I believe it was Old Magnet that made the post... I know the 9T's with the D311 are different but worth looking into.
here are some like No.212 Motor graders that are of the same ilk.
Good luck
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Sat, Apr 23, 2022 4:31 AM

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I might add .. in an earlier post on the D318 in a No. 12 Motor Grader was slightly different from D318's built for other applications. I'm not 100% sure but I think it had to do something with the crank.
I believe it was Old Magnet that made the post... I know the 9T's with the D311 are different but worth looking into.
here are some like No.212 Motor graders that are of the same ilk.
Good luck
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Interesting location for that starter motor. Could you get a shot of the other side so we can see how it's arranged? Doesn't seem to be anywhere near the flywheel. Perhaps it engages with the existing pinion assembly somehow?

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Sat, Apr 23, 2022 7:31 AM

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Interesting location for that starter motor. Could you get a shot of the other side so we can see how it's arranged? Doesn't seem to be anywhere near the flywheel. Perhaps it engages with the existing pinion assembly somehow?

I saw one like that on RB once - long gone now. It had a V belt pulley on the starter gear (Bendix) and a V pulley on the idler gear from the pony that drove the counter gear to the pinion clutch. The one I saw looked very much like that but had no safety shrouds over the belt n pulleys.

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Sat, Apr 23, 2022 7:01 PM

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