212 grader pony starter belt

Hello raven,
Need to sort out that model number first😄 😄
The #12 series is a six-cylinder engine
The #112 series is a 4-cylinder engine, same as the D4.
The #212 series is a 4-cylinder engine, sames as the D2.

You might consider buying a universal belt that can be taken apart. Most industrial parts outfilts like W. W. Grainger have them and you can assemble your own belt. It is much easier to feed the belt through and then put it together than to have to disasemble the dash. I did this on my old Cat 70D grader and it worked well. The long lever you speak of controls the starting engine clutch and the short one is the pinion lever. With the pony motor running, you pull the long lever in the direction of the front of the grader while lifting the pinion lever- when the pionion is engaged -you then push the long lever to the rear past center and the big engine should turn over. You also should have a compression release control to set, a fuel petcock to open for gasoline to the pony motor and other fun things to learn about on old Cats. Please don't try to start the big engine until you understand the safety issues about disconecting the pony motor when the diesel starts. Good luck

It,s so easy to check a belt length if it,s off by putting a chalk mark on the inside surface of the belt and lay it down on a flat surface, floor or whatever and put another chalk mark on the floor in line with the belt mark & roll it out flat on the floor till the belt mark comes down & mark the floor there And then mearure between the two marks on the floor and that gives you the length. You can just measure the outside width of the belt with a rule & take the sizes and the belt to your supplier as they will match a new one up for you. They usually have a measuring tool even to get the sizes you need if you don,t want to measure it yourself.We had one at the Cat dealer I worked for.

Old Magnet is right. A 212 does not have a 6 cylinder engine. A Cat 12 does. You need to find out what the serial number is to find out what you have. catskinner

yup im guessing its most likely a 12. It rained all through Christmas, plus it was Christmas so I didnt get to look at the serial. I also didnt bring a flashlight and it was almost dark. I did turn the pony by hand though. You have to really fold yourself up to get in there. Being able to turn the pony is encouraging. I may just try to rope start it.

http://www.durabelt.com/beltlengthcalculator.php

I did find that. I dont really have enough belt to use the floor method. :-\

Eli

D69U uses 8F2434 belt (cat part number) I can get a NAPA or GATES number off one of our tractors.

many of the #12 graders should be the same with D318 engine.

I would pull the whole machine to the shop instead of hauling the pony motor. It's a lot more convenient to work on it installed, with oil and coolant in it. Not necessarily easier to do the repair, but a lot less work removing, hauling and replacing.

Since the magneto faces backward on the grader (toward the radiator), you can get to it easily, unlike the 212 and 112 with the pony engine where the mag is facing the back of the cab. Ours has an oversize cab that cuts down on the clearance even more.

The only thing I would remove the motor for is an overhaul, but that's just me.

Well, i have kinda ditched pulling the pony now that I can turn it over by hand. Really no reason to if it turns over. A gates number would be awesome. I cant see the flywheel face to know which way to wind the rope and you really have to climb in there to get the rope on it. I could see where if it was ornery it would get old in a hurry to rewind the rope over and over. I will probably pull the mag and carb and fuel tank for cleaning and inspection.

A part number for the governor/water pump drive belt would be good as well.

Thanks for your help,
Eli

TR22485 starter drive belt (this is a notched belt which is easier to get on the starter drive pulley) A standard V belt can be hard to get on without removing the small pulley. Some V belts have less depth so they go on easier and the notches help too.

The 4B2544 waterpump/governor belt crosses to a 9425

Gates belt cross reference utility-
http://www.gatespowerpro.com/Comergent/en/US/adirect/gates?cmd=GRCPartInterchangeSearchFrame&CFID=7148215&CFTOKEN=44214589

the starting motor cord winds clockwise as you face the pulley (if you could face the pulley) so it turns the flywheel clockwise as you pull.

I was just looking at the cross reference when i returned from lunch!

I may try to pull the pony through a couple of times to make sure everything seems okay before putting the juice to the electric.

Thanks,
Eli