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reidrhollander
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I'll start out by saying that I have no idea what I am doing when it comes to this kind of machinery but the threads here have been a lot of help.

I have been looking for a dozer to push around several hundred tandem axle loads of fill dirt we had dropped on our property in the last few weeks. I pulled the trigger on this D7C this afternoon and paid $4000. It has an electric start pony and other than that all I know about it is it goes forward back, and turns.

https://www.rbauction.com/1958-CATERPILLAR-D7C?invId=8640516&id=ci&auction=DENVER-CO-2015281

I am looking for any feedback anyone has, like I said...I know nothing! Don't worry about hurt feelings either, I always have this feeling when I buy tractors like "Did I just get ripped off" so if I did let me know. I will consider it a lesson learned. All in I will be in $4700 after fees, taxes, and delivery 19 miles to our farm. I have thought of a few questions on my own if anyone can help.

Does anyone know where I can find an operators manual or is that a lost cause after 57 years?
If I pull the pin out of a side to angle the blade to the right or left do I just back up the tractor until it is lined up where I want it?
There are two levers near the pony motor. I have never used a pony motor myself, which one do I engage to start the diesel?
Why are the drive sprockets different? One is solid and the other spoked. Was one replace at some point?

Any comments, advice, criticism, encouragement, or tips is much appreciated. Excited to own my first Cat but honestly fairly scared too. Here is a link to a bunch of pictures.

http://imgur.com/a/1gkDT

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Fri, Oct 9, 2015 10:25 AM
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start searching ebay for manuals--make sure the manual covers your serial number---you can also contact D4C Charlie on this site for manuals--operators, maintenance,parts manuals
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Fri, Oct 9, 2015 10:50 AM
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looks to be in fairly decent condition, someone spent money on the undercarriage before as it has segmented sprockets on it so that is a plus, the grousers are fairly worn but for what you are doing they should be ok. it looks like the tracks are fairly worn as well as the idlers are at the front of the track frames. over all it looks to be in decent shape, not all beat up and dented. it is a non turbo model which is fine. if I could afford one, and one in that condition sold for that price near me, I would have snatched it up. about 7 years ago, there was a seized non running parts cat that had completely worn out undercarriage, cable blade, blade was missing but c frame and ccu were there, no seat, and it sold for 3500 bucks at auction. well above scrap price at the time.
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Fri, Oct 9, 2015 10:51 AM
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looks to be in fairly decent condition, someone spent money on the undercarriage before as it has segmented sprockets on it so that is a plus, the grousers are fairly worn but for what you are doing they should be ok. it looks like the tracks are fairly worn as well as the idlers are at the front of the track frames. over all it looks to be in decent shape, not all beat up and dented. it is a non turbo model which is fine. if I could afford one, and one in that condition sold for that price near me, I would have snatched it up. about 7 years ago, there was a seized non running parts cat that had completely worn out undercarriage, cable blade, blade was missing but c frame and ccu were there, no seat, and it sold for 3500 bucks at auction. well above scrap price at the time.
I have a set of manuals for #17a&up. Have service, parts, &operators. Are original cat. not sure of value, any suggestions? Let me know if you are interested. Also where you are located for shipping cost. I:m in N.H. Digitty1
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Fri, Oct 9, 2015 11:12 PM
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I have a set of manuals for #17a&up. Have service, parts, &operators. Are original cat. not sure of value, any suggestions? Let me know if you are interested. Also where you are located for shipping cost. I:m in N.H. Digitty1
Hi, Reidrhollander.
Man, you got 'ripped off'. But I am sure that there will be some 'charitable' soul on this forum who would take it off your hands for that price - - or maybe just a tad less considering that it has now had 1 more owner - and who knows how he may have treated it. LOL

Congratulations. It looks like you got a good deal. Electric pony start, it runs, goes forward and backward AND turns? You done good.

Another place to look for manuals: http://download.cattechmanuals.com/b...62c0751fc050f/

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sat, Oct 10, 2015 12:46 AM
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Hi, Reidrhollander.
Man, you got 'ripped off'. But I am sure that there will be some 'charitable' soul on this forum who would take it off your hands for that price - - or maybe just a tad less considering that it has now had 1 more owner - and who knows how he may have treated it. LOL

Congratulations. It looks like you got a good deal. Electric pony start, it runs, goes forward and backward AND turns? You done good.

Another place to look for manuals: http://download.cattechmanuals.com/b...62c0751fc050f/

Just my 0.02.
Mate welcome to the forum

You got a great deal there I reckon not that Im a expert at any of this most of the people on here are a lot more experienced than me
Theres plenty of good advise an information free for the taking

Looks the like a real neat machine to me you can always fix bits and pieces but it takes a lot of money to make a machine neat and tidy again

Well done and Im sure it will all work out for you as these are what I would consider to be some of the best Cats ever made well balanced heaps of lugging power and easy to work on

Paul
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Sat, Oct 10, 2015 4:12 AM
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Reply to mrsmackpaul:
Mate welcome to the forum

You got a great deal there I reckon not that Im a expert at any of this most of the people on here are a lot more experienced than me
Theres plenty of good advise an information free for the taking

Looks the like a real neat machine to me you can always fix bits and pieces but it takes a lot of money to make a machine neat and tidy again

Well done and Im sure it will all work out for you as these are what I would consider to be some of the best Cats ever made well balanced heaps of lugging power and easy to work on

Paul
Welcome to ACMOC. I think you did fine. When using your pony motor make sure you shut the gas off and let it run dry to kill it. Keep the gas off until you start it next time. The pony only holds a quart or so of oil and the carb bouncing around soon lets enough gas in to delute the oil to no valve. You can guess what comes next. I always change the pony oil on a new to me machine before I use it. This and lots of good information are in the manuals when you get them. Good luck.
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Sat, Oct 10, 2015 5:05 AM
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Reply to old-iron-habit:
Welcome to ACMOC. I think you did fine. When using your pony motor make sure you shut the gas off and let it run dry to kill it. Keep the gas off until you start it next time. The pony only holds a quart or so of oil and the carb bouncing around soon lets enough gas in to delute the oil to no valve. You can guess what comes next. I always change the pony oil on a new to me machine before I use it. This and lots of good information are in the manuals when you get them. Good luck.
Thanks everyone. I went to pay today and the original manual was in the toolbox in a plastic bag. Kind of hard to believe. There is a note scribbled on the inside of the cover that it had 4979 hours on 2/5/03.

Thanks for the advice on changing the pony oil. Now that you mention it I think I remember someone telling me this in regard to a friends road grader.
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Sat, Oct 10, 2015 8:44 AM
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Reply to reidrhollander:
Thanks everyone. I went to pay today and the original manual was in the toolbox in a plastic bag. Kind of hard to believe. There is a note scribbled on the inside of the cover that it had 4979 hours on 2/5/03.

Thanks for the advice on changing the pony oil. Now that you mention it I think I remember someone telling me this in regard to a friends road grader.
Some good advice on oil change but it takes more than a quart.
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Sat, Oct 10, 2015 9:26 AM
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Reply to reidrhollander:
Thanks everyone. I went to pay today and the original manual was in the toolbox in a plastic bag. Kind of hard to believe. There is a note scribbled on the inside of the cover that it had 4979 hours on 2/5/03.

Thanks for the advice on changing the pony oil. Now that you mention it I think I remember someone telling me this in regard to a friends road grader.
Close-up of left rear sprocket shows an apparent oil leak [upper casting] it is very important to
cover or seal with what ever means,this hole contains a bearing lock to keep an inner bearing
from spinning,any dirt entering here would be not what you want.[have been around the D-7
since the late 40's,every part is known by its first name] have a 17A7838,which 2 1/2 years
after purchasing restored to original,have been eager to post pic's,so far, no luck,has been featured
in Local 150 operators magazine,so ask away.also a very good buy!!

leon
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Sat, Oct 10, 2015 9:37 AM
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Close-up of left rear sprocket shows an apparent oil leak [upper casting] it is very important to
cover or seal with what ever means,this hole contains a bearing lock to keep an inner bearing
from spinning,any dirt entering here would be not what you want.[have been around the D-7
since the late 40's,every part is known by its first name] have a 17A7838,which 2 1/2 years
after purchasing restored to original,have been eager to post pic's,so far, no luck,has been featured
in Local 150 operators magazine,so ask away.also a very good buy!!

leon
To angle blade,raise approx. 1 foot,pull lock pin and link on side you wish to move to rear,proceed to opposite side,
pull pin and link[a short bar is needed] swing this side slowly forward to align link and pin holes, [always on level
ground] one person can handle the procedure,reducing the number of pinched fingers, etc.



leon
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