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lalogomez36

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I removed the four bolts but i can only get it to move back about a half inch. Do i need to remove more bolts elsewhere or do i need an extractor? Thank you all god bless. [attachment=51945]7A1906D7-C4D2-4FF4-A330-1C91779B1016.jpg[/attachment]

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 3:04 AM

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You have only 4 bolts and try turning the cluch housing right and left side and you can use ATF or WD40 ON SEAL THIS COULD HELP TO PULLING THE CLUCH HOUSING ASS,

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 4:52 AM

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Is the pony off or raised to allow the pinion latching sleeve to come past the drive gear?

Usually the big problem is getting the o-ring to come unstuck. The lubrication is important and be cautious prying on the ears, they can be snapped off pretty easily

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 5:55 AM

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Is the pony off or raised to allow the pinion latching sleeve to come past the drive gear?

Usually the big problem is getting the o-ring to come unstuck. The lubrication is important and be cautious prying on the ears, they can be snapped off pretty easily

Hi Team,
from memory you may have to remove 1 or 2 of the top engine block, side plate/cover bolts to allow further travel of the pinion housing. Also you need to engage the pinion to shorten its overall length to aid in getting it out past the fuel injection pump governor cover. By your picture you have the pony off already so this is not holding it back.

As said lubrication, twisting, and gentle levering in between the easily broken ears of the housing. Sometimes moving the unit in and out a few times aids in dispersing the lube on the required surfaces of the seal and the bore.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 7:38 AM

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Hi Team,
from memory you may have to remove 1 or 2 of the top engine block, side plate/cover bolts to allow further travel of the pinion housing. Also you need to engage the pinion to shorten its overall length to aid in getting it out past the fuel injection pump governor cover. By your picture you have the pony off already so this is not holding it back.

As said lubrication, twisting, and gentle levering in between the easily broken ears of the housing. Sometimes moving the unit in and out a few times aids in dispersing the lube on the required surfaces of the seal and the bore.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

The only reason im trying to take it off is to see if once its removed it will allow me to see the flywheel to help align the starter im getting ready to put in it. I bought the tractor with pony motor off already. Should I just leave it alone?? Merry Christmas everyone!!

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 8:33 AM

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The only reason im trying to take it off is to see if once its removed it will allow me to see the flywheel to help align the starter im getting ready to put in it. I bought the tractor with pony motor off already. Should I just leave it alone?? Merry Christmas everyone!!

[attachment=51947]8ECFDEFD-17C2-43CF-B4EF-E7D664683E45.jpg[/attachment] i broke an ear off before i realized i needed expert advice.

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 8:36 AM

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[attachment=51947]8ECFDEFD-17C2-43CF-B4EF-E7D664683E45.jpg[/attachment] i broke an ear off before i realized i needed expert advice.

What starter arrangement are you looking to install?

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 9:32 AM

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What starter arrangement are you looking to install?

[attachment=51949]D116DCFD-5D18-4B78-AD63-A52769CF12AF.jpg[/attachment] trying to install this starter, with the help of the template you shared with me Old Magnet sir.

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 10:26 AM

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[attachment=51949]D116DCFD-5D18-4B78-AD63-A52769CF12AF.jpg[/attachment] trying to install this starter, with the help of the template you shared with me Old Magnet sir.

Ear can be brazed back on. Should be able to get some pry bar leverage though the pony gear hole on top. Get it rotating back and forth first, before trying to pull it out. Maybe a longer bar bolted to it using the side cover bolt holes to rotate it.

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 12:34 PM

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[attachment=51949]D116DCFD-5D18-4B78-AD63-A52769CF12AF.jpg[/attachment] trying to install this starter, with the help of the template you shared with me Old Magnet sir.

Ok, I was wondering if you were trying to install the starter version that mounts to the pony clutch flange and still uses the problematic latch mechanism drive. The pony clutch/drive has no function in the conversion that three bolt mounts to the flywheel housing unless you intend to have both pony and direct electric start. There also is no advantage to having the pony clutch removed as far as locating or engaging the conversion starter.
I can't tell from your picture whether or not you have the correct drive end housing and gear on that starter.

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Wed, Dec 26, 2018 1:03 PM

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Ok, I was wondering if you were trying to install the starter version that mounts to the pony clutch flange and still uses the problematic latch mechanism drive. The pony clutch/drive has no function in the conversion that three bolt mounts to the flywheel housing unless you intend to have both pony and direct electric start. There also is no advantage to having the pony clutch removed as far as locating or engaging the conversion starter.
I can't tell from your picture whether or not you have the correct drive end housing and gear on that starter.

In my humble opinion..... get a come a long and attach it to the tracks or about any where on the fron of the tractor. pull the hook and cable back towards the piece you want to pull out. using two bolts, attach a small piece of chain to the piece you want to pull out. hook the come a long to the chain .. pull it straight forward.

I have NEVER been able to wiggle, pry , cuss or otherwise get the pinion out of the block - except this way.

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Thu, Dec 27, 2018 4:55 AM

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