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1942 Cat 212 Motor Grader

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PatW56
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I ran across a Cat 212 grader the other day and am considering buying it. It looks like it is all there, it might be missing an arm that swings the blade in a circle, I see one on the right side and it looks like there should be one on the left as well. Maybe some here can tell me. What do these things usually sell for? This has a tag on it that indicates that it was US Army at some point. Are parts and consumables readily available? It needs rubber. Any information would be appreciated.

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Sat, Aug 22, 2015 5:28 AM
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Pat,

In order to get better info from folks here, pictures are always best. Yes it sounds like you are missing one of the arms that raise the circle. The serial number should be located on the side of the frame up near the steering gear box. It would do well to post that here also.

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Sat, Aug 22, 2015 5:59 AM
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Hi, PatW56.
Interesting questions. Firstly, there is no 'arm' that swings the blade in a circle. There is a geared rack that shifts the draught frame from side to side, an arm on either side connected to the draught frame lift links to raise and lower the blade and a circle drive box within the draught frame to turn the grader circle one way or the other. If memory serves me right, the earlier versions may not have even had the geared rack for the side shift, just a link from the main frame to the draught frame with a couple of pin holes for adjustment.

To the best of my knowledge, the consumables are still available and so are many of the parts, especially for the engine. That 'missing arm' may be something that you would need to find from a 2nd had parts supplier.

If you can post a photo - or six - people here will have a better idea of what you are talking about.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sat, Aug 22, 2015 6:02 AM
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Hi, PatW56.
Interesting questions. Firstly, there is no 'arm' that swings the blade in a circle. There is a geared rack that shifts the draught frame from side to side, an arm on either side connected to the draught frame lift links to raise and lower the blade and a circle drive box within the draught frame to turn the grader circle one way or the other. If memory serves me right, the earlier versions may not have even had the geared rack for the side shift, just a link from the main frame to the draught frame with a couple of pin holes for adjustment.

To the best of my knowledge, the consumables are still available and so are many of the parts, especially for the engine. That 'missing arm' may be something that you would need to find from a 2nd had parts supplier.

If you can post a photo - or six - people here will have a better idea of what you are talking about.

Just my 0.02.
Several years ago, I went to the trouble of looking at one located at Morgan Mill, TX, for someone who wanted a 212 for parts.

This one had a patched block, and had not run for years, and was for sale for $250, IIRC.
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Sat, Aug 22, 2015 7:30 AM
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In a non operating condition they sell for scrap price discounted to the site of the grader. In other words if the price of scrap times the weight of the grader equals $800 and getting it loaded and delivered to the scrap yard costs 200, its worth $600.

Of course if you want it, you might have to sweeten the deal, but I don't think there is anything particularly valuable or unique about a 1942 model grader that would make it command a higher price than a later model.

Tires are not so available, at least in the typical grader tread. As I remember, several years ago, spade grip (tractor) or universal tread (military) tires were available while the industrial loader/grader tread was not. I would check availability if you are desiring a machine to restore.

Engines have serial number plates as well and should match the chassis plate. A 42 should have a D3400 3-3/4" bore 4 cylinder engine if a diesel model. Not sure exactly what gasoline engine would have been used.
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Sat, Aug 22, 2015 7:34 AM
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In a non operating condition they sell for scrap price discounted to the site of the grader. In other words if the price of scrap times the weight of the grader equals $800 and getting it loaded and delivered to the scrap yard costs 200, its worth $600.

Of course if you want it, you might have to sweeten the deal, but I don't think there is anything particularly valuable or unique about a 1942 model grader that would make it command a higher price than a later model.

Tires are not so available, at least in the typical grader tread. As I remember, several years ago, spade grip (tractor) or universal tread (military) tires were available while the industrial loader/grader tread was not. I would check availability if you are desiring a machine to restore.

Engines have serial number plates as well and should match the chassis plate. A 42 should have a D3400 3-3/4" bore 4 cylinder engine if a diesel model. Not sure exactly what gasoline engine would have been used.
I plan on going up this weekend and taking pictures. I found an operators manual and parts manual. Will post again this weekend. Thanks to all who replied.

Pat
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Thu, Aug 27, 2015 1:35 AM
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