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1940s D6 blade question

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TnSaw64
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New forum member , 1st off great site, Ive learned a lot from posts here. Question does anyone recognize this hydraulic dozer blade setup. Most d6 from this timeframe ive seen have cable blades.
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Sun, Dec 27, 2020 11:33 AM
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Hi, TnSaw64.
That arrangement looks very Bucyrus Erie to but I would have expected their badging plastered all over it. I seem to remember that there was another manufacturer of very similar hydraulic dozer equipment back then but can't put a name to them.

Someone with a way better reference library than my memory will come along to sort it out for you.

Just my 0.02.

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Sun, Dec 27, 2020 2:09 PM
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Hi, TnSaw64.
That arrangement looks very Bucyrus Erie to but I would have expected their badging plastered all over it. I seem to remember that there was another manufacturer of very similar hydraulic dozer equipment back then but can't put a name to them.

Someone with a way better reference library than my memory will come along to sort it out for you.

Just my 0.02.
It seems I've seen several older International dozers with similar setups like that.
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Sun, Dec 27, 2020 7:27 PM
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Reply to ol Grump:
It seems I've seen several older International dozers with similar setups like that.
It looks like an Isaacson blade to me.
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Sun, Dec 27, 2020 8:34 PM
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Reply to 8C 361:
It looks like an Isaacson blade to me.
It is not an Isaacson. It is a Bucyrus - Erie product.
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Sun, Dec 27, 2020 9:12 PM
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Reply to willwingo:
It is not an Isaacson. It is a Bucyrus - Erie product.
Hi, ol Grump.
The hydraulic Bucyrus Erie dozer blade arrangement was pretty much the standard for IH dozers way back when there were IH dozers that didn't have a main frame and so NEEDED the weight of the dozer transferred straight to the track frames. Isaacson did make a similar set-up and that is the name I was trying to think of but there was another outfit called Southern Welding and Machine Company who also manufactured a very similar set-up with a fabricated rear post for the back end of the ram where all the B-E units that I ever saw had a CAST steel post supporting the back end of the ram.

You can find a LOTTTTTT of information about earlier crawlers, dozers and manufacturers here:

https://classicdozers.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/scan0215_edited-1.jpg

Just my 0.02.

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Mon, Dec 28, 2020 12:10 AM
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There are a lot of similarities to the Bucyrus-Erie set up but I believe that is a close copy of the real thing.
Cylinder mounting doesn't seem right, along with closer details when you compare to the more common International applications. Sorry I can't correctly identify. A picture of the hydraulic pump and controls might help identify.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2020 1:23 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
There are a lot of similarities to the Bucyrus-Erie set up but I believe that is a close copy of the real thing.
Cylinder mounting doesn't seem right, along with closer details when you compare to the more common International applications. Sorry I can't correctly identify. A picture of the hydraulic pump and controls might help identify.
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Possibly Ateco they built some similar blades styled like the BE but all welded steel like this D6.My uncle ran a AC HD 14C (with the torch converter) that had a Ateco blade of this style.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2020 2:51 AM
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Reply to Ray54:
Possibly Ateco they built some similar blades styled like the BE but all welded steel like this D6.My uncle ran a AC HD 14C (with the torch converter) that had a Ateco blade of this style.
No comparison to any Atec blade arrangement that I've seen. May be similar in function but not in parts.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2020 3:47 AM
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No comparison to any Atec blade arrangement that I've seen. May be similar in function but not in parts.
Looks like a Heil blade
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Mon, Dec 28, 2020 4:05 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
There are a lot of similarities to the Bucyrus-Erie set up but I believe that is a close copy of the real thing.
Cylinder mounting doesn't seem right, along with closer details when you compare to the more common International applications. Sorry I can't correctly identify. A picture of the hydraulic pump and controls might help identify.
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[quote="Old Magnet" post=224752]There are a lot of similarities to the Bucyrus-Erie set up but I believe that is a close copy of the real thing.
Cylinder mounting doesn't seem right, along with closer details when you compare to the more common International applications. Sorry I can't correctly identify. A picture of the hydraulic pump and controls might help identify.[/quote]

Ive just attached a couple pics showing controls. I was told blade was added around 1958 in France so you are prob right it being a copy. Thanks for your expertise.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2020 5:03 AM
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