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pony to electric start - new parts source

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9 years 8 months ago #55958 by chrisj
Replied by chrisj on topic link to photos
http://img400.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=header4oq.jpg

When I click this link I go to Imageshack home page. does this link no longer work or do i need help in useing it.

Thank You all who have asked and answered questions on this thread. It has help me much with my 1955 D2 5U with a dead factory 24 volt starter.
ChrisJ

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7 years 11 months ago #78804 by chubjr
Replied by chubjr on topic old parts

"muzz" wrote: I have a D47u and a 12 8t grader and was thinking of going to a direct electric starter. I have paid close attention to everything Old Magnet has posted here and at his Image shack. I finally got around to calling Components Parts Co in CA for the starter drive 3-293A. They said "out of stock" try our other store in KS. They said "can't sell to anyone but rebuilders". I had done a lot of surfing to find someone closer and then anyone at all with no luck. Today I found what looks like a great supplier on EBAY.

They are:
Ebay seller name: triodiode

Following is copied from their Ebay store:
Weitzel's D.C. Electric Norwalk, Ohio 419-668-2844

Custom Rebuilder of Starters, Alternators and Generators

Doing it yourself? We sell parts.

BUSHINGS, BEARINGS, BRUSHES, BRUSH SPRINGS, SOLENOIDS, ARMATURES, FIELDS, STATORS, ROTORS, GENERATOR KITS, STARTER KITS, VOLTAGE REGULATORS, THREW BOLTS, SHIFT FORKS, BRUSH HOLDERS AND MORE!


Have questions on other parts. Give us a call. Open 8:00-5:00 Monday- Friday.
Saturday 8:00 to Noon
Closed Sundays
Ohio 419-668-2844
Toll Free 1-866-840-2844


They have the 11 ($61.39)and 12 ($56.04) teeth starter drives.

Caterpillar Helix Starter Drive 40 MT Conversion 12 T Item number: 250072356243
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Caterpillar-Helix-Starter-Drive-40-MT-Conversion-12-T_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33576QQihZ015QQitemZ250072356243QQtcZphoto

Delco Remy Starter Starter Drive Helix Gear Caterpillar Item number: 250027274280
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Delco-Remy-Starter-Starter-Drive-Helix-Gear-Caterpillar_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33576QQihZ015QQitemZ250027274280QQtcZphoto

I have a 42 MT starter, should I use the 11 or 12 tooth?


Thanks,
Muzz


if you don't mind, what are you doing with the old electric system start parts?? will they fit a D2

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7 years 9 months ago #82042 by King of Obsolete
here is the website where i get my starters from. they are only 1200kms south of me, lol.

http://ws1.wilsonautoelectric.com/ec03/part.php?part=91-01-3701

i get the auto parts store 300kms away to order the starter in from the south then i drive down and pick it up to save on freight charges. the starter is about $378.00 cdn money.

i had the helix bendix and nose cone in stock from 2006 when i bought a bunch on ebay but i can't remember the numbers right now.

thansk
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7 years 7 months ago #84520 by §wishy
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4 years 10 months ago #134312 by rchrdbarnard

&quot;muzz&quot; wrote: I have a D47u and a 12 8t grader and was thinking of going to a direct electric starter. I have paid close attention to everything Old Magnet has posted here and at his Image shack. I finally got around to calling Components Parts Co in CA for the starter drive 3-293A. They said &quot;out of stock&quot; try our other store in KS. They said &quot;can't sell to anyone but rebuilders&quot;. I had done a lot of surfing to find someone closer and then anyone at all with no luck. Today I found what looks like a great supplier on EBAY.

They are:
Ebay seller name: triodiode

Following is copied from their Ebay store:
Weitzel's D.C. Electric Norwalk, Ohio 419-668-2844

Custom Rebuilder of Starters, Alternators and Generators

Doing it yourself? We sell parts.

BUSHINGS, BEARINGS, BRUSHES, BRUSH SPRINGS, SOLENOIDS, ARMATURES, FIELDS, STATORS, ROTORS, GENERATOR KITS, STARTER KITS, VOLTAGE REGULATORS, THREW BOLTS, SHIFT FORKS, BRUSH HOLDERS AND MORE!


Have questions on other parts. Give us a call. Open 8:00-5:00 Monday- Friday.
Saturday 8:00 to Noon
Closed Sundays
Ohio 419-668-2844
Toll Free 1-866-840-2844


They have the 11 ($61.39)and 12 ($56.04) teeth starter drives.

Caterpillar Helix Starter Drive 40 MT Conversion 12 T Item number: 250072356243
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Caterpillar-Helix-Starter-Drive-40-MT-Conversion-12-T_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33576QQihZ015QQitemZ250072356243QQtcZphoto

Delco Remy Starter Starter Drive Helix Gear Caterpillar Item number: 250027274280
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Delco-Remy-Starter-Starter-Drive-Helix-Gear-Caterpillar_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33576QQihZ015QQitemZ250027274280QQtcZphoto

I have a 42 MT starter, should I use the 11 or 12 tooth?


Thanks,
Muzz


Muzz,
I also have a d4 7u and have converted it to direct start. I have the parts manual form 7u27570 to 7u44307. From 7u27507 to 7u35746 they used pinion 6b1360 which is a 13t. I'm also converting my 7t No. 12 grader to direct start. I get my starters from Starter Alternator Specialists in Billings, MT (406)248-4335 ask for Todd.

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4 years 10 months ago #134359 by silverstreak

&quot;rchrdbarnard&quot; wrote: Muzz,
I also have a d4 7u and have converted it to direct start. I have the parts manual form 7u27570 to 7u44307. From 7u27507 to 7u35746 they used pinion 6b1360 which is a 13t. I'm also converting my 7t No. 12 grader to direct start. I get my starters from Starter Alternator Specialists in Billings, MT (406)248-4335 ask for Todd.


I have a D2 5U serial #13200+- that I just had converted to direct electric start. The gentleman that did the installation for me said it was a pretty simple process. He did not have to drill or cut anything. It came with a starter and a mounting bracket that was built to line up with pony motor mounting holes. I still have to use the compression release, although the company that sold it to me said I would not. Since I don't have glow plugs I turn it over for a few minutes with no compression and then give it a small shot of starter fluid, give it compression and it fires right over. I bought the material from Bryan from B & C Equipment in Newburg, Mo. 573-762-2280. He is very knowledgeable and gave great service. I had some questions once I got everything and he explained things very well and told me to call any time if I had any questions. I would highly recommend this company. This was not cheap but well worth it.

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4 years 3 months ago #147532 by STEPHEN
Replied by STEPHEN on topic Did we just get spammed?

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4 years 3 months ago #147533 by Garlic Pete
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I just deleted his post and banned him.

Thanks STEPHEN!

Pete.

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3 years 1 month ago #171496 by Partyseyf
Great information here. Are those old machinery of caterpillar are the same with the new one?

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2 years 11 months ago #173789 by LeakyBoot

&quot;silverstreak&quot; wrote: I have a D2 5U serial #13200+- that I just had converted to direct electric start. The gentleman that did the installation for me said it was a pretty simple process. He did not have to drill or cut anything. It came with a starter and a mounting bracket that was built to line up with pony motor mounting holes. I still have to use the compression release, although the company that sold it to me said I would not. Since I don't have glow plugs I turn it over for a few minutes with no compression and then give it a small shot of starter fluid, give it compression and it fires right over. I bought the material from Bryan from B &amp; C Equipment in Newburg, Mo. 573-762-2280. He is very knowledgeable and gave great service. I had some questions once I got everything and he explained things very well and told me to call any time if I had any questions. I would highly recommend this company. This was not cheap but well worth it.

These systems seem to get some bad press but I like it. Yesterday I stick one 31 series battery in the 112 grader which had been sitting for 2 years. Shot of Walmart starting fluid in the small access I drilled and tapped in the cast air intake from the air filter and we were running in about 3 rounds of the engine crank. Leaky Boot

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