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pony to electric start - new parts source

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11 years 4 months ago #31071 by railbob
Hi. New here.

Got a question for Old Magnet. How do you face the starter boss when installing a MT 42 on a D-2 or D-4 without taking it to the mill?

Got three D-2's and a 2t D4 to do plus a 8t grader. Already done a RD-6 and a D-8.

Got a flywheel housing done in Amity Or. for another D-2 but really dont want to take 4 more tractors apart.

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11 years 4 months ago #31073 by Old Magnet
Hi railbob,
The in place installations are getting done without facing the bell housing. Would be wise to grind off any obvious bumps but seems to work ok. You do lose a little off the flywheel/drive engagement but that has not been a problem...so far.

Curious as to which D8 you converted....was it a late 2U model that has nothing (just the hole for the pony pinion) in the bellhousing with no mounting holes?

Would like to see some pictures of the RD-6 conversion also (before & after)

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11 years 4 months ago #31085 by n7gxz
Hey OM,

I just picked up the parts to start my D2 conversion. In your documents for the listings of the DEH for the D2's you list the 42MT as a CPC 15-1291 but is actually CPC 51-1291 and it is has 1/2" mounting holes.

Kevin

D2 5U13247 Direct electric start, #44hyd, 2S blade, Hyster D2N

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11 years 4 months ago #31096 by Old Magnet
Yup!! Guess I went cross-eyed on that one.

Also on another item....I was reviewing your glow plug chamber chart and notice your (line #14) 7B1844 chamber as using a 3H2033 glow plug and includes engines D4400, D4600 and D8800. Don't believe these engines ever had glow plug chambers unless I'm missing something. Can you verify?

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11 years 4 months ago #31105 by railbob

"Old Magnet" wrote: Hi railbob,

Curious as to which D8 you converted....was it a late 2U model that has nothing (just the hole for the pony pinion) in the bellhousing with no mounting holes?

Would like to see some pictures of the RD-6 conversion also (before & after)


Yes it is a 2U. I will get some pics for show and tell.

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11 years 4 months ago #31106 by n7gxz
OM,

I doubled checked the web page again at http://truckengineparts.com/prechambers.aspx for the 7B1844 pre-comp chamber and it is listing engines D318, D4400, D4600, & D8800 for this one with a 3H2033 glow plug.


I got the engine pulled and the flywheel housing up on the mill today. Got the holes drilled out and it turns out that my boring head did not extend out far enough to finish boring out the 3.625" hold. So I have to get a larger boring head now.

Kevin

D2 5U13247 Direct electric start, #44hyd, 2S blade, Hyster D2N

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11 years 4 months ago #31108 by Old Magnet
OK, checked listing and that's what it says.....but they have identification errors elsewhere also.....looks to be a good source but numbers will have to be verified.

I looked at another source and the 7B1844 is a non glow plug chamber for the
D7 & D8......models 7M, 3T, 4T, 6T, 13A and 2U7129-up (D8800 & D13000 only)

They are also confused with the D311 and D315/D318 being interchangeable as well.

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11 years 4 months ago #31139 by n7gxz
Do you know if the 2S1273 is the correct glow plug chamber for the D311?

Kevin

D2 5U13247 Direct electric start, #44hyd, 2S blade, Hyster D2N

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11 years 4 months ago #31141 by Old Magnet
The 2S1273 is a non glow plug that fits the early D315 & D318's and has a 1 1/8 in. - 12 thread nose.

The D311 (first version) chambers have a 1 in. -12 nose.

It is possible to re-thread the nose to fit D4/D6 chambers in to D2 heads.
I am not aware of any source for the D311 glow plug chambers.

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11 years 4 months ago #31246 by railbob

"Old Magnet" wrote: Hi railbob,


Would like to see some pictures of the RD-6 conversion also (before & after)


Well here is a pic of the RD-6. Dad used the pinion shaft from the pony and added a bearing on the tail end. He then set an eleven tooth straight tooth on the shaft for the m40 starter to engage. Works great. Yes you have to put the pinion in.
However after doing the Diesel Fifty with a machined bushing we wont do this again
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