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D2 Cody
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Hi everyone I am looking at possibly purchasing a dozer for my small contracting business and was kind of looking at a 1974 Caterpillar D5 or a 1960's Caterpillar D4D. I have grown up around this type of work being a fourth generation operator but have now gone on my own this last year and would like to buy a cheaper dozer to expand my business.I do mostly ag work and will be doing tree removal also. I know quite a bit about the newer dozers and the old R2's and D2's I am very into but little about the older 4's and 5's.Any feedback on these machines would be greatly appreciated such as the positives and the negatives of each and part availability.I really appreciate you guys and thanks again.
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Tue, May 8, 2012 12:06 PM
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Hey D2 Cody,

I have to admit, the D5 is one of the sweetest tractors I have ever run. The size to HP ratio is great. The D5 we owned had a long UC with 30" pads and that Cat would float on soft stuff realy good. I sure liked that cat. It was a dream to grade with, just a well balanced Cat. It would hang on the slopes good too. The tractor had a set of rippers on it to help balance the cat.

You didn't say if the D5 was a special application or not, direct drive or torque converter. Some say the torque converter is not good for farmers, as the direct drive doesn't heat up as much. For a grading tractor, and for over all work done the D5 has the 4-d beat hands down in my opinion.-glen
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Tue, May 8, 2012 1:28 PM
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Hey D2 Cody,

I have to admit, the D5 is one of the sweetest tractors I have ever run. The size to HP ratio is great. The D5 we owned had a long UC with 30" pads and that Cat would float on soft stuff realy good. I sure liked that cat. It was a dream to grade with, just a well balanced Cat. It would hang on the slopes good too. The tractor had a set of rippers on it to help balance the cat.

You didn't say if the D5 was a special application or not, direct drive or torque converter. Some say the torque converter is not good for farmers, as the direct drive doesn't heat up as much. For a grading tractor, and for over all work done the D5 has the 4-d beat hands down in my opinion.-glen
hello ,most here in australia now use excavator for tree remaval as they are quicker ,cleaner and can do other work so you are not stuck just doing dozer work ,as 7upuller say the D5 special application would be best for drawbar work ,bruce oz
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Tue, May 8, 2012 2:46 PM
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hello ,most here in australia now use excavator for tree remaval as they are quicker ,cleaner and can do other work so you are not stuck just doing dozer work ,as 7upuller say the D5 special application would be best for drawbar work ,bruce oz
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Hi D2 Cody,

When you say Ag work do you mean drawbar or blade work. If you are doing a lot of drawbar work, a direct drive D5, maybe even better a D5SA tractor would be the way to go, however if it is blade work, a powershift tractor is preferable. The D5's are a lot more tractor than the D4D, hence more output. My preference would be for a later model D5B with the direct injection engine, ROPS canopy or cabin and cat multi shank ripper. They are a very stable and manouverable tractor, nice to trim and tidy up with, cheap to run. I am not sure of the serial number breaks, there was a final drive dead axle mis alignment problem with some. Caterpillar had a recall and had a field rebore process to rectify, those that escaped this can chew up bull gears and pinions.

They are a beautiful little tractor for farm work, also very easy to transport, just watch for wear on the bottoms of the final drive housings, some had wear guards, some didn't. Bottoms of housings can wear to the point that they start to lose oil etc. The SA tractors are higher horsepower for drawbar work, but to my knowledge can only be fitted with a toolbar blade.

Happy tractor hunting and best wishes for a successful future business. Neil
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Tue, May 8, 2012 5:52 PM
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Hi D2 Cody,

When you say Ag work do you mean drawbar or blade work. If you are doing a lot of drawbar work, a direct drive D5, maybe even better a D5SA tractor would be the way to go, however if it is blade work, a powershift tractor is preferable. The D5's are a lot more tractor than the D4D, hence more output. My preference would be for a later model D5B with the direct injection engine, ROPS canopy or cabin and cat multi shank ripper. They are a very stable and manouverable tractor, nice to trim and tidy up with, cheap to run. I am not sure of the serial number breaks, there was a final drive dead axle mis alignment problem with some. Caterpillar had a recall and had a field rebore process to rectify, those that escaped this can chew up bull gears and pinions.

They are a beautiful little tractor for farm work, also very easy to transport, just watch for wear on the bottoms of the final drive housings, some had wear guards, some didn't. Bottoms of housings can wear to the point that they start to lose oil etc. The SA tractors are higher horsepower for drawbar work, but to my knowledge can only be fitted with a toolbar blade.

Happy tractor hunting and best wishes for a successful future business. Neil
Hello everyone,thank you all for the info I really appreciate it.I do not farm at all I do mostly ag dirtwork(pond construction,pivot development,building site development,etc.) with my contracting business for ag producers is what I meant to say sorry for the confusion.It sounds like the 5 would make a nice starter dozer, thanks again for the replies.
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Wed, May 9, 2012 12:41 AM
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Hello everyone,thank you all for the info I really appreciate it.I do not farm at all I do mostly ag dirtwork(pond construction,pivot development,building site development,etc.) with my contracting business for ag producers is what I meant to say sorry for the confusion.It sounds like the 5 would make a nice starter dozer, thanks again for the replies.
Not sure if it has already been sold . Kansas cat on the ACME forum has /had a D5 he wanted to sell . . If your not on ACME ,I could ask if he still has it if you wish .
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Not sure if it has already been sold . Kansas cat on the ACME forum has /had a D5 he wanted to sell . . If your not on ACME ,I could ask if he still has it if you wish .
ianoz that would be great...if you can find out and let me know maybe I could get in touch with him via phone.I would really appreciate it.Thanks again
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Thu, May 10, 2012 12:41 AM
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ianoz that would be great...if you can find out and let me know maybe I could get in touch with him via phone.I would really appreciate it.Thanks again
D2 Cody---here is Steve's e [email protected]--I ran that D5 last year at the spring fling and as Glen says IT WAS SWEET!
Dan
also--if it is still for sale and you buy it please wait until June 1 to pick it up!! 😆😆
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Thu, May 10, 2012 4:03 AM
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D2 Cody---here is Steve's e [email protected]--I ran that D5 last year at the spring fling and as Glen says IT WAS SWEET!
Dan
also--if it is still for sale and you buy it please wait until June 1 to pick it up!! 😆😆
Hi, D2 Cody.
I'm with Glen and Wombat re the D5B's - one of the sweetest little dozers I have ever operated and Wombat is right about the undersides of the final drive cases. The ones without the protectors did tend to wear a bit, sometimes to the point of leaking. They are also pretty economical on fuel for the work that they can do.

Just by way of an illustration of how well-balanced and controllable the D5B can be, I spent 3 years cutting house pads with it, to the same 15-18 mm/9/16- 3/4" tolerances that the other operators in the company were doing with Cat 943 and 953 track loaders using spreader bars held in the 4-in-1 bucket jaws. This machine was also incredibly stable in hilly country as it was a wide gauge machine with a straight tilt blade, a good set of rippers and a pretty good non-ROPS canopy. It also had plenty of grunt and could put it on the ground. Even though it was a wide gauge machine, it would just keep on cutting with a full blade and keep the dirt boiling up in front of the blade.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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