D2 Just Died -- Help Please

Hi,
First of all, your 5J813 is more like a 1938 model. Does the pony motor have any oil in it? That's the first thing to check before trying to start anything. With all that cranking you could have spun a bearing if it's low on oil. There should also be oil in the pinion housing and in the bell housing under the pony motor (near the pinion engage lever). If the oil level is low or empty in any of these 3 places, damage may have been done. Sometimes you can get lucky and things will loosen up after it cools down. Even with the pinion and pinion clutch engaged to crank the main engine, the pony should turn fairly easy by hand.

Hi,
First of all, your 5J813 is more like a 1938 model. Does the pony motor have any oil in it? That's the first thing to check before trying to start anything. With all that cranking you could have spun a bearing if it's low on oil. There should also be oil in the pinion housing and in the bell housing under the pony motor (near the pinion engage lever). If the oil level is low or empty in any of these 3 places, damage may have been done. Sometimes you can get lucky and things will loosen up after it cools down. Even with the pinion and pinion clutch engaged to crank the main engine, the pony should turn fairly easy by hand.

Sounds like a clutch failure problem. Clutch drags but it is not fully engaging or disengaging. The pinion would still be engaged providing plenty of drag.

Thank you Old Magnet, that is the direction I was thinking also. My only concern is if that is the problem wouldnt the fan on the Diesel engine turn when I pull the pony motor thru now?

Thanks you for the input.
Muchbroker
Casper Wy

I think your somewhere in between, not enough clutch grip to turn the main but enough to feel the drag when rolling over the flywheel by hand.
Try manually disengaging the pinion by bumping the latch dogs. Should have a small 2" dia cover plate under the left floor board for access. Then try rolling over the pony flywheel......should spin freely then.

Do a search on here under the topic. These pony motor/clutch/pinion problems are the most discussed topic on here.

Make sure there is oil in the pony clutch. It will make a strange squealing noise right before it stops. That is, so i am told. :eek2:

John

Try Ebay for manuals, I was perusing through there last night and saw lots of manuals listed for the D2

i watched a neighbor start a pony on a 7m after a overhaul.👋 ran about 5 minutes and bound up. turns out he had not got oil holes lined in back main, didn't hurt the crankshaft

Thank you all -- I wil definetly check the clutch oil level, then try and dislodge the pinion. I really hope that is it.

Also thanks for the Ebay tip on manuals, I really got burned out on Ebay a few years ago due to the exorbanant (sp) costs of "shipping and handling" but I need the manuals so will just have to pay the piper.

Thanks again to all of you, I will be sure and post the outcome.
Muchbroker
Casper WY