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17 years 7 months ago #4501 by Philip
Dozer in barn was created by Philip
Got a lead on a machine in a farmers barn. Having trouble figuring out what it is and owner is asking $2500. Engine is a stuck 354 Perkins and blade goes with it. Might be able to get it for scrap price, not sure if it's worth the effort. First attempt at posting pics..Phil
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17 years 7 months ago #4505 by Andy.s
Replied by Andy.s on topic Dozer in barn
Hi there :)
Only small dozer I can recall seeing with the perkins 6354 is a Track Marshall
Hope this helps

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17 years 7 months ago #4506 by 84WD10
Replied by 84WD10 on topic Track Marshall Dozer !!
Hello Philip,
Yes that certainly is a "TRACK MARSHALL" tractor that you have stumbbled across. The give away instantly is the letters ACK MAR, on the extreme left of the first photo.

Regards to ALL Board members.

Alan T. Lewis
Christchurch
NEW ZEALAND

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17 years 7 months ago #4507 by tctractors
Replied by tctractors on topic Barn Banger.
This old bird is a Track Marshall 70, they steer through brake bands without steering clutches , if the band adjuster bolts found on the back main case are less than 15/16 long (not including the lock nut) it will need some work/cash put its way, all the bits are easy to find in the U.K.

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17 years 7 months ago #4509 by Philip
Replied by Philip on topic Dozer in barn
Thanks for identifying this one. She must of slipped over on the boat. Not sure if I will try and buy it or not. Phil

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17 years 7 months ago #4513 by gwhdiesel75
Replied by gwhdiesel75 on topic Dozer in barn
Phil, I suppose it is collectible. I don't know where they were manufactured. I have seen one or two at shows - such as Rough and Tumble in Pennsylvania. My concern would be about parts. Don't know how available they are. If you want to work the tractor instead of just showing it off as a collectible, I think I'd want to know where to get parts. You don't have that problem with something along the line of a JD. Since this is a Caterpillar site, I might also mention that the $ you spend on the pictured tractor might be better spent on a Cat.

GWH

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17 years 7 months ago #4517 by ccjersey
Replied by ccjersey on topic Dozer in barn
TC,

How do they pull and steer under a load? I always wondered how a differential steer tractor worked, or is the new Caterpillars' system I heard about something different from the Track Marshal brake and differential system.

D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time:D

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17 years 7 months ago #4523 by tctractors
Replied by tctractors on topic Diff steering,
Track Marshall's were built at Gainsbough England, they were great little tractors, wide spread with a good pull, the Perkins motor was always very under stressed, in this tractor poking out 70 hp hence the TM 70, this engine is good for about 120 hp, the diff steer thing is not to far away from the CAT system , I would think its true lines is from the battle tanks from WW1-2, in the final drive there is a brake drum with an external contracting band, the same as on a CAT, but this is in the F/drive , this slows down the shaft when braked ,making the differental speed up on the other side ,so as to effect a turn , both tracks are constantly driven as there is no steering clutches, I have stacks of pic's of these old bangers ripped to bits, some even with CAT bits stuck on them, I can always post a few if you like,
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17 years 7 months ago #4524 by SJ
Replied by SJ on topic Steering
The old Cletrac Tractors had the diff. steering too as we had a DDH Cletrac on the farm & dad also did some custom work in my area doing lots of stone wall burying as we have (had) miles of laid up stones walls here in Pa. that were used as fences & another way to get rid of stones on plowed fields.He did other kinds of dozing too. Today there are outfits here that sort out these stones & put them on wooden floats & sell them all over the country. It,s not uncommon to see trailer loads of them going to a market for them all over & they bring big bucks.

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17 years 7 months ago #4525 by dpendzic
Replied by dpendzic on topic Dozer in barn
WOW SJ--I have a couple of miles of those stone walls on my property in the berkshires---do you know of any outfits that will take them?? :D

D2, D3, D4, D6, 941B, Cat 15
Hancock Ma and Moriches NY

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