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64farmboy
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This is, I'm sure, a simple question for most of you folks But how are the rollers and idler wheels greased on my D2? I gather that the threaded plugs are removed and a grease fitting screws into the hole. I pulled one plug out yesterday and the plug itself does not appear to come apart for access to a standard zert fitting.

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Mon, May 3, 2010 6:42 PM
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There could be lubricated for life rollers on there if they have been replaced in the last 40 years or so.

These will have a socket hex type plug installed tight usually, so it takes a good bit to get them out. These rollers use 30 wt drive train oil, not grease. There is a special nozzle to top them off, or you can pour oil into them with a funnel etc., but there should be some air space left for expansion.

The other older type uses grease and should have button head fittings which take a special coupler. Grease for these is 000 weight semi fluid consistency and care must be taken not to blow the seals out. A low presssure/high volume pump is best for these or a standard gun can be used with a pressure relief in the line or with caution to stop whenever any resistance to grease flow is felt.
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Mon, May 3, 2010 8:22 PM
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Reply to ccjersey:
There could be lubricated for life rollers on there if they have been replaced in the last 40 years or so.

These will have a socket hex type plug installed tight usually, so it takes a good bit to get them out. These rollers use 30 wt drive train oil, not grease. There is a special nozzle to top them off, or you can pour oil into them with a funnel etc., but there should be some air space left for expansion.

The other older type uses grease and should have button head fittings which take a special coupler. Grease for these is 000 weight semi fluid consistency and care must be taken not to blow the seals out. A low presssure/high volume pump is best for these or a standard gun can be used with a pressure relief in the line or with caution to stop whenever any resistance to grease flow is felt.
CC thanks for the reply, I have button head type fittings, the machine is about a 1953 (5U12142) with 4000 hrs. I don't think the rollers have been changed. I took out the button heads on both front idler wheels and they appeared to be full of grease.Every other grease fitting I checked was well greased, the farmer I got it from apparently believed in the grease gun. 40 years ago my Dad always had me hit our haying equipment everyday with a couple of shots of grease, never had a bearing go down on us for the lack of grease.

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Mon, May 3, 2010 11:28 PM
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If possible, I would go back to the farmer and see if you can get the track roller lube pump he was using. Those things are expensive and of almost no other use if you don't have an old tractor.
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Tue, May 4, 2010 1:08 AM
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If possible, I would go back to the farmer and see if you can get the track roller lube pump he was using. Those things are expensive and of almost no other use if you don't have an old tractor.
CC, unfortunately after I got the machine the farmer disappeared, They had his son in custody for a possible homocide but the NYS police couldn't pin it on him (no body) anyone living on a farm knows the creative ways to make a body disappear! Sounds like a soap opera doesn"t it. Last I knew the farm is under foreclosure, locked down by the police and the son is in jail for 15-20 years for cashing his dads checks. I don't think I'll get involved in the tool shed. I was thinking about a 1/2MPT to 1/4 FPT adaptor with a zert fitting, pull the existing plugs one at a time and gentlly adding some grease. I know you have to be careful or a seal might be blown out

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Tue, May 4, 2010 3:42 AM
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CC, unfortunately after I got the machine the farmer disappeared, They had his son in custody for a possible homocide but the NYS police couldn't pin it on him (no body) anyone living on a farm knows the creative ways to make a body disappear! Sounds like a soap opera doesn"t it. Last I knew the farm is under foreclosure, locked down by the police and the son is in jail for 15-20 years for cashing his dads checks. I don't think I'll get involved in the tool shed. I was thinking about a 1/2MPT to 1/4 FPT adaptor with a zert fitting, pull the existing plugs one at a time and gentlly adding some grease. I know you have to be careful or a seal might be blown out

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The button head adapter fittings are available from McMaster Carr. About $40.00
[quote="64farmboy"]CC, unfortunately after I got the machine the farmer disappeared, They had his son in custody for a possible homocide but the NYS police couldn't pin it on him (no body) anyone living on a farm knows the creative ways to make a body disappear! Sounds like a soap opera doesn"t it. Last I knew the farm is under foreclosure, locked down by the police and the son is in jail for 15-20 years for cashing his dads checks. I don't think I'll get involved in the tool shed. I was thinking about a 1/2MPT to 1/4 FPT adaptor with a zert fitting, pull the existing plugs one at a time and gentlly adding some grease. I know you have to be careful or a seal might be blown out

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Thu, May 6, 2010 4:45 AM
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The button head adapter fittings are available from McMaster Carr. About $40.00
[quote="64farmboy"]CC, unfortunately after I got the machine the farmer disappeared, They had his son in custody for a possible homocide but the NYS police couldn't pin it on him (no body) anyone living on a farm knows the creative ways to make a body disappear! Sounds like a soap opera doesn"t it. Last I knew the farm is under foreclosure, locked down by the police and the son is in jail for 15-20 years for cashing his dads checks. I don't think I'll get involved in the tool shed. I was thinking about a 1/2MPT to 1/4 FPT adaptor with a zert fitting, pull the existing plugs one at a time and gentlly adding some grease. I know you have to be careful or a seal might be blown out

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Hey, Those Alemite grease pumps do show up on eBay from time to time. I scored a really nice one a couple years ago for about $35 (shipping was another story). Search eBay for "alemite" or "grease pump" and they should come up if they're listed. Good Luck!!
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Thu, May 6, 2010 9:22 AM
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Hey, Those Alemite grease pumps do show up on eBay from time to time. I scored a really nice one a couple years ago for about $35 (shipping was another story). Search eBay for "alemite" or "grease pump" and they should come up if they're listed. Good Luck!!
When pumping lube into rollers go slow and use very little pressure on the handle. When resistanc Iss felt, Stop.. Remove connection, take a nail or some suitable object and push the button in to remove residual pressure.

if a zerk has already been installed and used you can bet the seals are shot. If they did not get pushed out you can bet they burned out during operation with the seal too tight from pressure.
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Fri, May 7, 2010 11:48 PM
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When pumping lube into rollers go slow and use very little pressure on the handle. When resistanc Iss felt, Stop.. Remove connection, take a nail or some suitable object and push the button in to remove residual pressure.

if a zerk has already been installed and used you can bet the seals are shot. If they did not get pushed out you can bet they burned out during operation with the seal too tight from pressure.
Usally when there that shot I use my adapter from zerk/button and use my air greaser and I pump it till I see the grease coming out that way I know that the dirt and junk is getting pushed out that way it will make the bushings last longer. But if it's on a machine you farm with or use all the time you better just replace the rollers and put low maintence life time rollers.
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Sat, May 8, 2010 12:37 AM
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Usally when there that shot I use my adapter from zerk/button and use my air greaser and I pump it till I see the grease coming out that way I know that the dirt and junk is getting pushed out that way it will make the bushings last longer. But if it's on a machine you farm with or use all the time you better just replace the rollers and put low maintence life time rollers.
I just ordered my button head fitting from NAPA today for $37.00 to use on a hand grease gun on my 1938 D2.
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