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Jason 10/D4
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Hi guys I am wondering on a couple of things Is there a brand of wrench that is made for the bolts on your pinion flange a long straight wrench is alot nicer to break the bolts loose thats why I ask? Also how about a tool to smash the rivets for the break linings ? Thanks, Jason
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 1:11 AM
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I don,t know about the wrench but we had a special punch to knurl the rivets on brake lining or clutch lining. I don,t know if Cat sold them or where the dealer got it but it was in the tool crib for years to do the job.One could be made easy if you have a lathe as it was a punch type with about a 7/16" outside diameter and then it had inner rounded corners and a groove and the center had a half a ball type turned to fit in the rivet hole and then you hit it and it knurled the rivet around in shape.Kind of hard to just describe how it was made but that was basically how it was.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:44 AM
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Hi, Jason 10/D4.
Wunce uponna time, some wrench manufacturuers sued to make some ring wrenches with only a 10-15 degree angle on the ring, no 'S' bend. These days, it seems that the wrench manufacturers figure they have 'sussed' out all our requirements and it appears that we ONLY need to common 'S' bend style - sorta one size fits all.

If you have a problem accessing those bolts due to excessively bent wrenches, you can always cure the problem with a little judicious use of the oxy-acetylene bend-removing aid - if you get my drift. I have one wrench here that I 're-modelled' 30 years ago for getting to the brake lever position adjusting nuts in Caterpillar rear DD CCU's. I haven't used it much for that purpose in the last 30 years but it is still as good as the day I 're-modelled' it.

Just a note - the quality of the original wrench will have a HUGE bearing on the quality/usefulness of the end product if you choose go the route hinted at above. To put it another way, start with junk - end with junk. The one mentioned above that I 're-modelled' came from a Suzuki LJ50 4wd tool kit. And, if you cause any thermal variation in the wrench, let it return to normal in its own good time.

Re the rivets: some people punch them out with the brake band resting on a good, solid surface and some people drill them out.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:55 AM
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Hi, Jason 10/D4.
Wunce uponna time, some wrench manufacturuers sued to make some ring wrenches with only a 10-15 degree angle on the ring, no 'S' bend. These days, it seems that the wrench manufacturers figure they have 'sussed' out all our requirements and it appears that we ONLY need to common 'S' bend style - sorta one size fits all.

If you have a problem accessing those bolts due to excessively bent wrenches, you can always cure the problem with a little judicious use of the oxy-acetylene bend-removing aid - if you get my drift. I have one wrench here that I 're-modelled' 30 years ago for getting to the brake lever position adjusting nuts in Caterpillar rear DD CCU's. I haven't used it much for that purpose in the last 30 years but it is still as good as the day I 're-modelled' it.

Just a note - the quality of the original wrench will have a HUGE bearing on the quality/usefulness of the end product if you choose go the route hinted at above. To put it another way, start with junk - end with junk. The one mentioned above that I 're-modelled' came from a Suzuki LJ50 4wd tool kit. And, if you cause any thermal variation in the wrench, let it return to normal in its own good time.

Re the rivets: some people punch them out with the brake band resting on a good, solid surface and some people drill them out.

Hope this helps.
What size are you looking for?
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:13 AM
Jason 10/D4
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What size are you looking for?
Well guys I remodeled a 15/16 for the flange bolts on a D6 but they were so tight had to use two wrenches and I would like to have a straight 15/16 wrench no angle on the box end at all and about 2 feet long. Thanks ,Jason
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 6:02 AM
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Reply to Jason 10/D4:
Well guys I remodeled a 15/16 for the flange bolts on a D6 but they were so tight had to use two wrenches and I would like to have a straight 15/16 wrench no angle on the box end at all and about 2 feet long. Thanks ,Jason
I got mine from Mac tools,they're now called alinement wrenches.Slip a 3/4" heater hose over the end.If they still have both a straight and bent get both.
Good luck Bob
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 6:44 AM
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Reply to Jason 10/D4:
Well guys I remodeled a 15/16 for the flange bolts on a D6 but they were so tight had to use two wrenches and I would like to have a straight 15/16 wrench no angle on the box end at all and about 2 feet long. Thanks ,Jason
Hi Team,
from my old tool kit the Cat punch is P/No 6F6946.
For the Bevel Gear Nuts I just used the standard Cat 3/4" or 15/16" open end ring spanner with a suitable cheater pipe--used the same wrenches for 40 + years and they are still as good as new!!!! Also have other brand spanners suitably adapted as Deas has pointed out.
Cat later came out with ring spanners that you could use with a tension wrench which are straight or specially offset.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 7:01 AM
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Hi Team,
from my old tool kit the Cat punch is P/No 6F6946.
For the Bevel Gear Nuts I just used the standard Cat 3/4" or 15/16" open end ring spanner with a suitable cheater pipe--used the same wrenches for 40 + years and they are still as good as new!!!! Also have other brand spanners suitably adapted as Deas has pointed out.
Cat later came out with ring spanners that you could use with a tension wrench which are straight or specially offset.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
check these Jason.I think the old proto double box end were pretty straight along with some Craftsman EDB shows what you want but I didn't see any current auctions with the ones he shows. Check under ''tube wrench''
http://cgi.ebay.com/15-16-Bluepoint-Tubing-Wrench_W0QQitemZ180448831305QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a0396a749

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mac-tools-13-16-15-16-Box-End-Wrench-BXL2630_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cecb52dffQQitemZ330388811263QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 7:17 AM
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check these Jason.I think the old proto double box end were pretty straight along with some Craftsman EDB shows what you want but I didn't see any current auctions with the ones he shows. Check under ''tube wrench''
http://cgi.ebay.com/15-16-Bluepoint-Tubing-Wrench_W0QQitemZ180448831305QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a0396a749

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mac-tools-13-16-15-16-Box-End-Wrench-BXL2630_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cecb52dffQQitemZ330388811263QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools
Check the straight box heavy duty wrenches from www.McMaster
#5315A67 (15/16). I have several sizes and are some of my favorite wrenches.
Easily stands up to cheater bar use.

Also the #6667A3 (1/4 in.) series of rivet sets. They have them up to 5/16 in. dia.
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 9:26 AM
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Check the straight box heavy duty wrenches from www.McMaster
#5315A67 (15/16). I have several sizes and are some of my favorite wrenches.
Easily stands up to cheater bar use.

Also the #6667A3 (1/4 in.) series of rivet sets. They have them up to 5/16 in. dia.
I have a set of Mac long handled box ends, one 3/4 and one 15/16. Not sure you can still get them but will post the part# soon.
Later Bob
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Mon, Dec 28, 2009 11:20 AM
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I have a set of Mac long handled box ends, one 3/4 and one 15/16. Not sure you can still get them but will post the part# soon.
Later Bob
I just bought a set of 6 rivet punches for brass rivets from the Mac tool dealer. I needed them for putting new clutch facings on my MG. They go from 1/8 to 1/2 inch. I got the impression that he had been hauling them around for a long time, as he couldn't find a price for them, so I gave him $19.50 for them and he was happy. They seem to be a high grade tool and I am very happy with the performance of them. Try your local Mac dealer, you might get lucky.
Don
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