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catcrazy
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Can someone tell me what a Trackson HT4 would be, I was under the impression that an HT4 was a Caterpillar machine.

A lot of the parts appear to be the same.


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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 1:52 AM
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Trackoson made the loader, and it is on a D4
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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 1:58 AM
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Trackoson made the loader, and it is on a D4
installed by cat during the build.
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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 2:01 AM
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installed by cat during the build.
Yes on the above posts,
Here are the specs:
Turned into the 955 12A in 1955.
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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 2:14 AM
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Yes on the above posts,
Here are the specs:
Turned into the 955 12A in 1955.
wow, who butchered the HT4. that be a good parts machine for me if it werent so far away. but the HT4 is as they said, Trackson made the loader part, and caterpillar put it on the D4 frame. Then later on in the years, and Im sure of this but the experts will be able to tell you, about when the first 955 machines came out, is when caterpillar bought out the trackson company. here is video of my HT4 working at the brownsville steam show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk35AqDLfqk
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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 2:29 AM
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wow, who butchered the HT4. that be a good parts machine for me if it werent so far away. but the HT4 is as they said, Trackson made the loader part, and caterpillar put it on the D4 frame. Then later on in the years, and Im sure of this but the experts will be able to tell you, about when the first 955 machines came out, is when caterpillar bought out the trackson company. here is video of my HT4 working at the brownsville steam show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk35AqDLfqk
The Trackson Co built their first cable Trackson loader on a Cat in late 1937 .. fitted to a model Thirty (6G) crawler .. and it was sold as the "Trackson Shovel option".
Soon after, Trackson produced the T4, fitted to the D4 .. then followed with models for every other Cat, up to D7 size. By 1946, the model range was T2 (D2), T4 (D4), T6 (D6) and the T7 (D7).

The cable Trackson loaders on Cat crawlers were built by the Trackson Co, from early 1938 to December 1951, when Cat bought the Trackson Co., lock, stock and barrel. By the mid 1940's, Trackson merely called all their loader range, just Traxcavators (from "tractor excavator").

After Cat purchased the Trackson Co., the Trackson loaders were gradually renamed Caterpillars (although the Traxcavator nameplates remained for a year or two) .. and the cable Tracksons were rapidly phased out, in favour of the hydraulic Traxcavators (Trackson had produced the all-hydraulic HT4 in 1950 - and it sold alongside the cable Tracksons loaders, for over 2 years, before the cable Trackson production ceased).
The hydraulic Trackson HT4 Traxcavator was designed by both Trackson and Caterpillar engineers, in a co-operative effort, that commenced in 1948.

The No.6 Shovel, released in early 1953, was Cat's first all-new, totally-Caterpillar-designed, hydraulic traxcavator .. and the No.6 sold along with the HT4 up to early 1955, when the 933, the 955 and the 977 appeared on the scene. The release of the No.6 Shovel saw the end of production of cable Traxcavators.
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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 5:35 AM
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The Trackson Co built their first cable Trackson loader on a Cat in late 1937 .. fitted to a model Thirty (6G) crawler .. and it was sold as the "Trackson Shovel option".
Soon after, Trackson produced the T4, fitted to the D4 .. then followed with models for every other Cat, up to D7 size. By 1946, the model range was T2 (D2), T4 (D4), T6 (D6) and the T7 (D7).

The cable Trackson loaders on Cat crawlers were built by the Trackson Co, from early 1938 to December 1951, when Cat bought the Trackson Co., lock, stock and barrel. By the mid 1940's, Trackson merely called all their loader range, just Traxcavators (from "tractor excavator").

After Cat purchased the Trackson Co., the Trackson loaders were gradually renamed Caterpillars (although the Traxcavator nameplates remained for a year or two) .. and the cable Tracksons were rapidly phased out, in favour of the hydraulic Traxcavators (Trackson had produced the all-hydraulic HT4 in 1950 - and it sold alongside the cable Tracksons loaders, for over 2 years, before the cable Trackson production ceased).
The hydraulic Trackson HT4 Traxcavator was designed by both Trackson and Caterpillar engineers, in a co-operative effort, that commenced in 1948.

The No.6 Shovel, released in early 1953, was Cat's first all-new, totally-Caterpillar-designed, hydraulic traxcavator .. and the No.6 sold along with the HT4 up to early 1955, when the 933, the 955 and the 977 appeared on the scene. The release of the No.6 Shovel saw the end of production of cable Traxcavators.
Hi, OzDozer.
I'm guessing that this was the same Trackson Co. that had been making crawler conversion kits for several different common wheel tractors for many years, much as Roadless had been doing in Britain. I seem to remember seeing photos of and information relating to Trackson crawler conversions dating back to the early 1920's. Some models of Case wheel tractors were among the ones that kits were made for. I'm not sure if they were sold as kits or if Trackson did the conversions and then sold them to the end user - or maybe both.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 6:30 AM
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The Trackson Co built their first cable Trackson loader on a Cat in late 1937 .. fitted to a model Thirty (6G) crawler .. and it was sold as the "Trackson Shovel option".
Soon after, Trackson produced the T4, fitted to the D4 .. then followed with models for every other Cat, up to D7 size. By 1946, the model range was T2 (D2), T4 (D4), T6 (D6) and the T7 (D7).

The cable Trackson loaders on Cat crawlers were built by the Trackson Co, from early 1938 to December 1951, when Cat bought the Trackson Co., lock, stock and barrel. By the mid 1940's, Trackson merely called all their loader range, just Traxcavators (from "tractor excavator").

After Cat purchased the Trackson Co., the Trackson loaders were gradually renamed Caterpillars (although the Traxcavator nameplates remained for a year or two) .. and the cable Tracksons were rapidly phased out, in favour of the hydraulic Traxcavators (Trackson had produced the all-hydraulic HT4 in 1950 - and it sold alongside the cable Tracksons loaders, for over 2 years, before the cable Trackson production ceased).
The hydraulic Trackson HT4 Traxcavator was designed by both Trackson and Caterpillar engineers, in a co-operative effort, that commenced in 1948.

The No.6 Shovel, released in early 1953, was Cat's first all-new, totally-Caterpillar-designed, hydraulic traxcavator .. and the No.6 sold along with the HT4 up to early 1955, when the 933, the 955 and the 977 appeared on the scene. The release of the No.6 Shovel saw the end of production of cable Traxcavators.
Might be some parts there but it would be a risk. Probably a #44 hyd unit. What series D4 is it? I can not tell from the photo's.

Matt
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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 6:37 AM
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Might be some parts there but it would be a risk. Probably a #44 hyd unit. What series D4 is it? I can not tell from the photo's.

Matt
Matt - The HT4 Trackson is mounted on a modified 7U series D4. 5 roller, fixed track frames, Cat #44 front-mount hyd system, and blower fan. The Traxcavator assembly adds 5,850 lbs to the basic D4 tractor, making the HT4's weight come in around 18,800 lbs.

Deas - Yes, you're correct. The Trackson company patented a crawler conversion in the early 1920's that could be, and was fitted, to numerous brands of tractors. It was a popular conversion for many tractor-grader units.
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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 7:49 AM
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Matt - The HT4 Trackson is mounted on a modified 7U series D4. 5 roller, fixed track frames, Cat #44 front-mount hyd system, and blower fan. The Traxcavator assembly adds 5,850 lbs to the basic D4 tractor, making the HT4's weight come in around 18,800 lbs.

Deas - Yes, you're correct. The Trackson company patented a crawler conversion in the early 1920's that could be, and was fitted, to numerous brands of tractors. It was a popular conversion for many tractor-grader units.
The wheel loaders also wore the traxcavator name for a while too.
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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 3:41 PM
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The wheel loaders also wore the traxcavator name for a while too.
I could see where they might convert Case equipment as the factory was just up the road in Milwaukee. Cat had the plant there until I think in the early 80's they closed it about the same time they closed the hose plant in Edgerton WI and gave up plans for building a new plant in Southern WI.
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