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I have a small Murray scraper and would like to find some information about it. Can someone tell me who I could talk to about getting model number / capacity information, and hopefully a source for an operators manual (or a copy)? I'd be interested in talking to someone who has one of these in operating condition. This unit will require some repairs, and good pictures of the original dumping mechanism is my primary need.

My understanding from reading other posts is that there is a company in Corcoran, CA that is still producing the "Murray" line of equipment. Does someone know the name of the company or how to contact them?
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Sun, Nov 22, 2009 12:11 PM
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do you have any pics ? i have a tommy tipper it was called but i think it was different
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Sun, Nov 22, 2009 12:34 PM
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do you have any pics ? i have a tommy tipper it was called but i think it was different
The company in Corcoran is Sawtell & Rosprim, I have just seen them build the pull type box scrapers and 3 shank pull rippers.

The carryall scrapers came in basically three different designs.

The first design dating back to 1948 had two separate cable systems that were attached to the overhead cylinder. One cable system operated when the cylinder extended opening the front apron and dumped the dirt, the second system of cables closed the front apron tight when the cylinder was retracted.

The second design just had one system of cables connected to the overhead cylinder that opened the front apron and dumped the dirt. There were springs that helped roll the bucket back, and the weight of the dirt on the front apron helped keep it closed.

The third design had the dumping cylinder attached directly to the bucket, and levers were used to open the front apron.
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The company in Corcoran is Sawtell & Rosprim, I have just seen them build the pull type box scrapers and 3 shank pull rippers.

The carryall scrapers came in basically three different designs.

The first design dating back to 1948 had two separate cable systems that were attached to the overhead cylinder. One cable system operated when the cylinder extended opening the front apron and dumped the dirt, the second system of cables closed the front apron tight when the cylinder was retracted.

The second design just had one system of cables connected to the overhead cylinder that opened the front apron and dumped the dirt. There were springs that helped roll the bucket back, and the weight of the dirt on the front apron helped keep it closed.

The third design had the dumping cylinder attached directly to the bucket, and levers were used to open the front apron.
The one I have is the third design described by CR. There are no cables, and the dumping cylinder is at the back of the bucket. There are springs that help do something, but the springs and the mounting points are both broken. This is one of the main reasons I'd like to see pictures of an original working dumping mechanism.

What sizes were available from Murray? Were they all smaller units?

I'll try to post some pics as soon as I can.
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Sun, Nov 22, 2009 10:54 PM
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The one I have is the third design described by CR. There are no cables, and the dumping cylinder is at the back of the bucket. There are springs that help do something, but the springs and the mounting points are both broken. This is one of the main reasons I'd like to see pictures of an original working dumping mechanism.

What sizes were available from Murray? Were they all smaller units?

I'll try to post some pics as soon as I can.
wdbdel, the ram pushes the ejector forward then the springs should return it.
Wabco Man should be able to help. I will email him for you.
Regards Gordon.
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Sun, Nov 22, 2009 11:24 PM
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wdbdel, the ram pushes the ejector forward then the springs should return it.
Wabco Man should be able to help. I will email him for you.
Regards Gordon.
The Murray Scraper (headquartered in Sacramento, Ca.) built scrapers intended for agricultural improvements rather than large scale earthmoving.
Murray manufactured about 4 different models as far as I can tell, (the largest rated at about 6 cubic yards and bearing a strong resemblance to a LeTourneau model 'M').
Murray used a conjunction of both hydraulic and cable control to operate their scrapers.
The most popular appears to be the 4 cunic yard model which could be used behind a D2 or D4.
Getting appropriate replacement tires for resoration could prove to be difficult as Murray used older style truck tires (8.00x 20, 11.00 x 20 etc) rather than earthmover tires.
I would like to see a pic or two of this acquisition 😄
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Tue, Nov 24, 2009 5:37 AM
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The Murray Scraper (headquartered in Sacramento, Ca.) built scrapers intended for agricultural improvements rather than large scale earthmoving.
Murray manufactured about 4 different models as far as I can tell, (the largest rated at about 6 cubic yards and bearing a strong resemblance to a LeTourneau model 'M').
Murray used a conjunction of both hydraulic and cable control to operate their scrapers.
The most popular appears to be the 4 cunic yard model which could be used behind a D2 or D4.
Getting appropriate replacement tires for resoration could prove to be difficult as Murray used older style truck tires (8.00x 20, 11.00 x 20 etc) rather than earthmover tires.
I would like to see a pic or two of this acquisition 😄
Here are a few pictures. The blade/opening width is approximately 7 ft. I did a rough calculation and came up with about 3.8 cubic yards for a level load. Not sure how much mounding one can do. Would this be a 4 yd?
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Wed, Nov 25, 2009 2:18 PM
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Here are a few pictures. The blade/opening width is approximately 7 ft. I did a rough calculation and came up with about 3.8 cubic yards for a level load. Not sure how much mounding one can do. Would this be a 4 yd?
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Thanks wdbdel,

That looks like an MS-5 (5 cubic yard) with a few local modifications.
It would have been manufactured in the late 1940s early 1950s.
They are pretty tough old girls (as wost most of the equipment built around that time).
The colors are not original - Murray scrapers are normally Cat yellow.
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Thu, Nov 26, 2009 4:31 AM
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Thanks wdbdel,

That looks like an MS-5 (5 cubic yard) with a few local modifications.
It would have been manufactured in the late 1940s early 1950s.
They are pretty tough old girls (as wost most of the equipment built around that time).
The colors are not original - Murray scrapers are normally Cat yellow.
Hi there, do you still need pics of the ejection ram and stuff? My neighbor just bought a 8-10 yard one(that's what he tells me I haven't seen it yet) for his D7E. Give me your email and I'll send u some pics. I'm on my iPhone that's why I can't post pics on the bb. 😄
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Thu, Nov 26, 2009 4:46 AM
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Hi there, do you still need pics of the ejection ram and stuff? My neighbor just bought a 8-10 yard one(that's what he tells me I haven't seen it yet) for his D7E. Give me your email and I'll send u some pics. I'm on my iPhone that's why I can't post pics on the bb. 😄
Here are a couple of picture of the one I just bought about a month ago.
Thanks
Ken
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Thu, Nov 26, 2009 4:54 AM
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Here are a couple of picture of the one I just bought about a month ago.
Thanks
Ken
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Nice looking scraper.
See the obvious LeTourneau influences though.
That looks to be a 6 cubic yard model.
Nice to see people taking care of the old girls 😊
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