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davidbrodhead
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Looking for advice re using current diesel fuel in these old motors.Any suggested additives ?
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Thu, Oct 8, 2009 11:38 PM
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The concensus seems to be that the new diesel fuel is lower in lubricity. Many have suggested additives such as ATF or 2 stroke oil. My thinking is that there may be additives that do not get along with the seals in older diesels. I have settled on adding 30W non detergent oil at the rate of one quart to ten gallons of fuel. I try to keep this up in my old Cats. My 89 Jetta diesel has responded favorably to this treatment.

Non Detergent oil is kind of hard to find nowadays. I get it at Autozone for about $2.25 a quart.

Tom
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Fri, Oct 9, 2009 12:01 AM
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The concensus seems to be that the new diesel fuel is lower in lubricity. Many have suggested additives such as ATF or 2 stroke oil. My thinking is that there may be additives that do not get along with the seals in older diesels. I have settled on adding 30W non detergent oil at the rate of one quart to ten gallons of fuel. I try to keep this up in my old Cats. My 89 Jetta diesel has responded favorably to this treatment.

Non Detergent oil is kind of hard to find nowadays. I get it at Autozone for about $2.25 a quart.

Tom
I get non-detergent oil at our local TSC. I gave about $4.00 for a 2 gallon can.
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Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:56 AM
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I get non-detergent oil at our local TSC. I gave about $4.00 for a 2 gallon can.
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I add Power Service Diesel Fuel additive to my machines---use home heating oil in my D2,941B, and D3B but diesel fuel in the smaller 3 cyl engines
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Fri, Oct 9, 2009 7:34 AM
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I add Power Service Diesel Fuel additive to my machines---use home heating oil in my D2,941B, and D3B but diesel fuel in the smaller 3 cyl engines
from a heating engineer go carefull using kero some times can be very dodgey
some of the loads we deal with play hovac with heating appliances 😕
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Sun, Oct 11, 2009 3:42 AM
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from a heating engineer go carefull using kero some times can be very dodgey
some of the loads we deal with play hovac with heating appliances 😕
A few years ago I acquired several hundred gallons of heating oil for free. I mentioned this to the fuel supplier I deal with and he said to keep a close eye on the heat gauge as it burns a bit hotter than diesel. The main difference I noted was that the D4 as well as the Ford 555A backhoe both started a lot easier in colder winter weather. It was my winter fuel from then on, but for summers I'd switch back to off road diesel. For both, I add a quart of two stroke oil per 10 gallons of fuel.
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Sun, Oct 11, 2009 8:04 PM
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A few years ago I acquired several hundred gallons of heating oil for free. I mentioned this to the fuel supplier I deal with and he said to keep a close eye on the heat gauge as it burns a bit hotter than diesel. The main difference I noted was that the D4 as well as the Ford 555A backhoe both started a lot easier in colder winter weather. It was my winter fuel from then on, but for summers I'd switch back to off road diesel. For both, I add a quart of two stroke oil per 10 gallons of fuel.
Okay....now I am a bit confused. Is it better to add 30w non-detergent oil, two stroke oil or just off road diesel straight from the tank for the older Cats ????
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Mon, Oct 12, 2009 6:20 AM
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Okay....now I am a bit confused. Is it better to add 30w non-detergent oil, two stroke oil or just off road diesel straight from the tank for the older Cats ????
In Oregon, off-road red-dyed diesel is pretty much the same as the old higher sulfur diesel. I've been running it for several years in D2, D7 and a John Deere with no problems and no additives. The red diesel is the same product that they sell for home heating, only with a couple cents/gallon tax added. Go figure.

This IS NOT stove oil, which some dealers refer to as home heating oil. Stove is generally too hot for a diesel, although I was told that Greyhound used to use it in their buses with GM 6-71 engines. Can't say for sure; I've been told a lot of things...

Jack
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Fri, Oct 16, 2009 8:15 AM
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