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compressor
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Question,
I bought a early model 7u79?? I have to haul it about a 100 miles.
Heres what I got to haul it.Truck is a 06 f350 diesel,but my trailer is a 14000lbs big tex gooseneck.
Single wheel,dual axle.
Good brakes,good tires on trailer.
Am I going to need a wrecker to scoop me and my twisted trailer of the freeway.or if I go slow and take my time, I will go floating down the highway with not a care in the world watchin people look at my new prize???
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 8:57 AM
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If you strip it down - no dozer or any other heavy attachment, you might squeak by. Better not go past any weigh scales either 😮 😉
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 9:39 AM
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If you strip it down - no dozer or any other heavy attachment, you might squeak by. Better not go past any weigh scales either 😮 😉
Compressor,I would have it hauled.Probably cost around $ 400.00 depending on what the terrain is to load and unload is.You need a CDL to haul that.If you blow a tire or two you are going to spend more on damages than it would cost you to have hauled.If highway patrol stops you,you will most likely be red tagged and have to have it hauled anyway.I cant tell you how many JD 210 skiploaders I have sent my lowbeds out to pickup owner oporators machines where the CHP has red tagged them.The last time they wouldnt even let him tow the trailer empty because it was over 12,000 pds GVW.Probably not what you want to hear just trying to possibly save you some problems. John
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 10:13 AM
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Reply to Sprucegum:
If you strip it down - no dozer or any other heavy attachment, you might squeak by. Better not go past any weigh scales either 😮 😉
Oh,
I forgot to mention,it's a bare tractor no blade,winch just tractor.
There's something I haven't thought about,the scales.
Do I have to stop??? Haulin d2's around never have????
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 10:17 AM
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Oh,
I forgot to mention,it's a bare tractor no blade,winch just tractor.
There's something I haven't thought about,the scales.
Do I have to stop??? Haulin d2's around never have????
I think Dforeeee has the right idea. With a 14K trailer it probably weighs 5k and you will end up with about 12K from the D4 when you add in chains, mud, fuel etc. You'll be a minimum of 2K over and maybe 3K overweight just on the trailer. I'd pay someone the money to haul it the 100 miles. 😉

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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 10:27 AM
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Oh,
I forgot to mention,it's a bare tractor no blade,winch just tractor.
There's something I haven't thought about,the scales.
Do I have to stop??? Haulin d2's around never have????
I haul mine around without any issues. Just take it easy on the hills. Parley's especially, if your going west. My D-4 weighs 10,500 lbs. The POE's want anything over 10,000 lbs. GVW to pull in and you better be licensed for that much weight or you could get a ticket. That being said...I never stop when in a pick-up and what fun is it having a D-4 if you can't haul it around yourself? I would do it.
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 10:45 AM
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Reply to D4Jim:
I think Dforeeee has the right idea. With a 14K trailer it probably weighs 5k and you will end up with about 12K from the D4 when you add in chains, mud, fuel etc. You'll be a minimum of 2K over and maybe 3K overweight just on the trailer. I'd pay someone the money to haul it the 100 miles. 😉
It kind of comes down to how lucky you feel with the law.lol.. The trailer will most likely haul it but it wont do it leagally. We've hauled more then that on our 14,000 lb gvw trailer but it definatley wasn't legal and it also wasn't high speed, it was hooked on behind our wheel loader.

Maybe you can get lucky and find someone who needs a back haul to your area.

Ryan
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 10:45 AM
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It kind of comes down to how lucky you feel with the law.lol.. The trailer will most likely haul it but it wont do it leagally. We've hauled more then that on our 14,000 lb gvw trailer but it definatley wasn't legal and it also wasn't high speed, it was hooked on behind our wheel loader.

Maybe you can get lucky and find someone who needs a back haul to your area.

Ryan
You can haul it but, can you stop it in an emergency!!! I have done stupid stuff before, trying to quit. Death is final!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😮
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 10:54 AM
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It kind of comes down to how lucky you feel with the law.lol.. The trailer will most likely haul it but it wont do it leagally. We've hauled more then that on our 14,000 lb gvw trailer but it definatley wasn't legal and it also wasn't high speed, it was hooked on behind our wheel loader.

Maybe you can get lucky and find someone who needs a back haul to your area.

Ryan
The main thing to keep in mind, is what the end result will be if you have an accident whilst overloaded .. even if the accident was no fault of your own.

In many jurisdictions, this will cost you 100 times or more, what it would cost to pay a hauler .. and then there's the hassles of lawyers and courts, and the drawn-out legal arguments that you have to support .. 😞

If you're hauling short distances on country roads with little traffic - no problem. If you're hauling in traffic - you've got many likely problems, as the drunken/doped up/incompetent fool, overtakes you, and then runs into you, or cuts across your path, while he's rubber-necking your Cat .. 🙄

Even just getting a flat, and then having to change it on the shoulder, is often a guaranteed way of ensuring that some imbecile runs into your rig while you're stopped. Once you take to the highways, you need to ensure that you take every precaution against the fools who barely have control of the vehicle they're driving.
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 10:56 AM
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Oh,
I forgot to mention,it's a bare tractor no blade,winch just tractor.
There's something I haven't thought about,the scales.
Do I have to stop??? Haulin d2's around never have????
Compressor

Be careful with that Big Tex Gooseneck. I have the 20GN Model, 20,000 pounds with tandem duels. Was hauling a Clark 6000 pound rough terrain Forklift, a Van Norman 2A Milling machine,(3500 pounds) and a tub type tool grinder (1000 pounds) and the trailer rolled going around a curve at about 35 to 40 miles per hour. Wasn 't that sharp of a curve. The trailer had so much sideways flex from the gooseneck to where the axles attached to the trailer it actually twisted and caused the load to off center and flip the trailer and load. When I loaded the milling machine on the trailer and pushed it to center of the trailer with the forklift the trailer flexed sideways about 18 inches. Only had two cross members in the frame from front of the bed to the axles, and one of them was only a piece of pipe. The floor was only screwed down on two cross members that held the floor. There were no lateral braces running from the bottom of the frame to the outside edge of the trailer. Trailer now has 6 cross members in the frame and 2 inch tounge and groove oak floor screwed down at every cross member on every board with 6 braces on each side from the frame to the outside edge of the trailer. I have had no problems with it since I rebuilt it. Called Big Tex in Oklahoma were the trailer was made and they said their engineers had disigned the trailer and it should have been alright. They really had no explination why the trailer had so much flex in it. Trailer was only about a year old then.

Brian Boaz
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 11:11 AM
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Reply to OzDozer:
The main thing to keep in mind, is what the end result will be if you have an accident whilst overloaded .. even if the accident was no fault of your own.

In many jurisdictions, this will cost you 100 times or more, what it would cost to pay a hauler .. and then there's the hassles of lawyers and courts, and the drawn-out legal arguments that you have to support .. 😞

If you're hauling short distances on country roads with little traffic - no problem. If you're hauling in traffic - you've got many likely problems, as the drunken/doped up/incompetent fool, overtakes you, and then runs into you, or cuts across your path, while he's rubber-necking your Cat .. 🙄

Even just getting a flat, and then having to change it on the shoulder, is often a guaranteed way of ensuring that some imbecile runs into your rig while you're stopped. Once you take to the highways, you need to ensure that you take every precaution against the fools who barely have control of the vehicle they're driving.
I hauled my D4 dozer on a trailer just like yours. Mine had blade and hydraulics. So it weighed a bit more. The trailer was groaning and creaking the whole time. I wouldn't suggest going that far with that trailer.
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Wed, Jan 21, 2009 11:26 AM
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