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Commercial Hydraulic Pump (1950 D2 5U) Questions

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bpusmc
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In a previous post (D2 BladE and Hydraulics id) I requested help identifying and troubleshooting the hydraulics on my D2.

As recommended, I took all of the components to a local shop and was told “disassemble it and bring it back, anything we don’t have in stock - we can order and get within 24 hours.”

I disassembled the pump and took it back and was told “my parts book for Commercial D series pumps is from 1983 and it shows those parts were obsolete then.”

So, I believe it is a Commercial, D series pump. I don’t know the model number.  I need a thrust plate and 4 bearings. Based on the photos in this post, if anyone can provide information on a parts source or any pertinent information about this pump I would appreciate it.

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Hi, bpusmc.
Whereabouts are you located? Even though I'm currently DowNunda in Australia, I know a man on the Central Coast, CA., who would just LOVE a challenge like that.

Are there any part or casting #s that you can find to help identify which pump it is?

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Jul 9, 2023 6:36 AM
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Hi, bpusmc.
Whereabouts are you located? Even though I'm currently DowNunda in Australia, I know a man on the Central Coast, CA., who would just LOVE a challenge like that.

Are there any part or casting #s that you can find to help identify which pump it is?

Just my 0.02.
Thanks for your response Deas. I’m in central Texas. Here’s a few more pictures.  [attachment=72887]IMG_7711.jpeg[/attachment][attachment=72888]IMG_7473.jpeg[/attachment][attachment=72889]IMG_7714.jpeg[/attachment]
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Sun, Jul 9, 2023 6:47 AM
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Thanks for your response Deas. I’m in central Texas. Here’s a few more pictures.  [attachment=72887]IMG_7711.jpeg[/attachment][attachment=72888]IMG_7473.jpeg[/attachment][attachment=72889]IMG_7714.jpeg[/attachment]
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Hi, bpusmc.
I have just sent this man an e-mail with a link to this thread. It will be up to him whether he takes it up or not. He has worked in spare parts for about 25 years and recently got me some parts for equipment on the ranch in California that the local dealer had on a month's back order.

Just my 0.02

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Sun, Jul 9, 2023 7:12 AM
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Hi, bpusmc.
I have just sent this man an e-mail with a link to this thread. It will be up to him whether he takes it up or not. He has worked in spare parts for about 25 years and recently got me some parts for equipment on the ranch in California that the local dealer had on a month's back order.

Just my 0.02
Thanks a million Deas.
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Sun, Jul 9, 2023 7:52 AM
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Thanks a million Deas.
Hi, bpusmc.
Let's see where it goes - or if it even gets off the ground - before you go 'spending a million thanks'.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Sun, Jul 9, 2023 8:32 AM
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Hi, bpusmc.
Let's see where it goes - or if it even gets off the ground - before you go 'spending a million thanks'.

Just my 0.02.
Hi Chad, if the OEM parts aren't available, as an alternative, you might be able to match those bearings dimensionally, and have someone turn down a new plate for you
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Sun, Jul 9, 2023 9:22 PM
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Hi Chad, if the OEM parts aren't available, as an alternative, you might be able to match those bearings dimensionally, and have someone turn down a new plate for you
Because that is a non-Cat pump, it might be cheaper to replace the whole pump. If you do that you need to know what pressure the cylinders are rated for and find a pump to match.
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Mon, Jul 10, 2023 6:32 AM
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Reply to ChuckC:
Because that is a non-Cat pump, it might be cheaper to replace the whole pump. If you do that you need to know what pressure the cylinders are rated for and find a pump to match.
I agree on that one. Might be faster, cheaper and easier to just replace it with something else. Seems like every hydraulic shop around here is always backlogged or they can't keep their word on a repair. A member has some hydraulic goodies posted on FB, something to consider. JM
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Mon, Jul 10, 2023 6:42 AM
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Reply to ChuckC:
Because that is a non-Cat pump, it might be cheaper to replace the whole pump. If you do that you need to know what pressure the cylinders are rated for and find a pump to match.
I have a very similar if not the same pump on a 9u D6. It had been sitting 20 years plus on a farmer built pruning tower for walnut trees made to mount to a IH TD 14 tractor. It leaked around the input shaft. Was a very simple to fix lip seal used in hydraulic applications. Unlike the spring loaded seals in the lower pressure Be Ge unit it replaced. The shop had one on hand, and very cheap too as I recall. I am thinking mine has O rings rather than a gasket. I don't recall ever having a pressure gauge on it but would guess 1400 to 2000 PSI. Lifts implements a Be Ge struggled with.
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Reply to Ray54:
I have a very similar if not the same pump on a 9u D6. It had been sitting 20 years plus on a farmer built pruning tower for walnut trees made to mount to a IH TD 14 tractor. It leaked around the input shaft. Was a very simple to fix lip seal used in hydraulic applications. Unlike the spring loaded seals in the lower pressure Be Ge unit it replaced. The shop had one on hand, and very cheap too as I recall. I am thinking mine has O rings rather than a gasket. I don't recall ever having a pressure gauge on it but would guess 1400 to 2000 PSI. Lifts implements a Be Ge struggled with.
The Heil hyd unit that was on my Cletrac was only rated at 200 normal operating psi and 500 max op psi, I thought thats really low!
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