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D6-8u Track Carrier Roller Replacment

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1 year 8 months ago #246481 by Bennett53
I need to replace all 4 of the Carrier Roller's they are beyond shot. My question is after looking around the forums and doing some research im having trouble sourcing any. I have not called CAT yet! My towers appear to be in decent shape. What im wondering is what all should i gather up when i go to start in? Looking at my parts manual im showing 9B572 as the whole group seals/bolts/tower/roller etc. The cat did come with 2 9H8916 Roller assem. shows for a different serial range 8U10653-10970. I have read that you can upgrade to lifetime rollers? or is it better to stay with the greaseable? If i decide to upgrade does anyone have the Cat part number's? My book shows a special group part # of 2m7208. Also when im in there should i replace my bottom rollers? 

Thanks everyone.

Ps i will add pictures tonight to show how bad they are. 


 

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1 year 8 months ago #246482 by ctsnowfighter
"Bushings" are the portion that the sprocket contacts They fit inside a recess inside each rail segment. You can not see the ends of the bushings unless they are pressed apart.
"Pins" are the portion that you see the ends of on each outside rail segment. The pins do not show as they go through the bushings.
When "turning" pins and bushings, you are trying to "turn" them 180 degrees, thus in effect returning them to a tighter fit. As they wear, distance between the links increases.
"Master Pins" fit differently than the other pins and are removeable - although sometimes with great effort - BIG HAMMERS, or even worse conditions GAS AXE. Newer systems and equipment have changed procedures and methods of "connection" track ends.

Generally speaking, you can feel the bushings with your fingers and tell pretty easily if they have been turned.

CTS

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1 year 8 months ago #246487 by juiceman
If you are lucky enough, you could find good used, complete with stands. It can be a pain to attempt rebuilding worn ones. If upgraded with adapters, you could go with the life time lubed ones as well. Let's see how worn yours are; sometimes a person will build them back up by welding them too. JM

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1 year 8 months ago #246492 by ctsnowfighter
Roller Replacement -
How much is this machine going to be used, hard work or shows only?
Condition of the rails, pins/bushings, idler, sprocket, as well as the rollers themselves will play heavily in the expense and availability of bottom rollers.
This is a subjective approach - one can replace or rebuild almost anything - just depends upon time and $$$

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1 year 8 months ago #246499 by trainzkid88
for something that isnt going to be worked it doesnt need top notch track gear. especially if it is only moving the machine on and off the truck. now if you want to work it in a demo area or on your own property then it needs better condition track gear. if you want to earn money with it then it needs track gear in top condition. what many call rails i know as track chains and they are referring to the running surface on each track link.

for some machine after-market stuff is available and sometimes the only new option. you can also get second hand stuff from wrecking yards etc.

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1 year 8 months ago #246504 by Bennett53
Here they are like i said they are shot. I Currently have two new roller assemblies (9H8916) however according to my parts book they are for serial numbers 8U10653-10970. They came with cat. As for use its going to more of hobby use light to moderate work on my in laws ranch. Maybe blading out some old roads and pileing trees and plowing snow in the winter. 

Thanks

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1 year 8 months ago #246506 by juiceman
Yes, looks like you succeeded in maximum use for one of them. I would inspect for alignment as well, make sure everything is running true, otherwise the replacements will see damage to the flanges as well. I am spoiled here, as there are plenty of D6 8U/9U parts tractors at my friends farm that I am allowed to gather from if need be.
If you don't mind, share your location and maybe someone can point you in the right direction for more parts or assistance. JM

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1 year 8 months ago #246507 by ctsnowfighter
Wash the rails, idler, sprocket with some water to wash the dirt, debris off - take pictures of those and share
Those rollers have seen way more than life expectancy!
Look closely at the Bushings in the rails ( as some call them - chains) are they worn through to the pins?
As JM said, consider alignment
Track adjustment will be an indication of wear too.

CTS

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1 year 8 months ago #246509 by Ray54
It has been many years since I looked for carrier rollers for the old D6's. My go to after market supplier was out but hoping for a new supply from off shore. Cat had some put it took a whole new tower as well, so much more cost. A different supplier had some old style new stock, so you just have to start calling. Unless you really like playing in grease, I suggest you be happy with ether style.

There has been a list of suppliers of new and used parts as part of ACMOC services. I have lost track of how to access it on the current site. Maybe one of the things you need to be a member to see, such as the parts and repair manuals library.

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