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1 year 10 months ago #244678 by Kurt Bangert
An additional note on the ACF Cats - i have asked him to share photos:

"FYI. The original Ordnance Department PO was for 8400 D7. We have a ACF factory photo of one with a sign “10,000th”. We found correspondence in the ACF Archives at the University of Missouri -St Louis that indicate over 21,000. I do not currently have s copy of that document. There is also correspondence in the UM-SL archives that indicate Caterpillar was not happy with this arrangement and would not allow ACF to take photos of the Caterpillar D7 being built in the ACF factory. We do have ACF factory photos of the D7s in the ACF yard.  Also, a few years back I contacted the Caterpillar Corporate Curator. She confirmed they were aware that ACF built “some” D7 but Caterpillar did not track the serial numbers because those tractors were not “theirs” (Caterpillar’s)."

D4 D 78A 6678
D4 6U 1139
RD4 4G223W
D2 5U 1164
JD 350B
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1 year 10 months ago #244679 by Kurt Bangert
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D4 D 78A 6678
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D2 5U 1164
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JD 420C
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1 year 10 months ago #244680 by gauntjoh
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Great article. It’s a pity though the last picture is (I think) an IH TD18 not a D7.

John Gaunt, ACMOC Director, UK
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1 year 10 months ago #244682 by Deebo
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Interesting Kurt, what publication did that article appear in, out of interest?

Regards,

Tony

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1 year 10 months ago #244689 by bruce oz
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ACF factory . would the D7 just be bare caterpillar D7 and opions fitted to the tractor by ACF factory ,tractor not built by ACF factory .

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1 year 10 months ago - 1 year 10 months ago #244691 by D4Jim
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ACF factory . would the D7 just be bare caterpillar D7 and opions fitted to the tractor by ACF factory ,tractor not built by ACF factory .

The latest book by David Doyle mentions that Cat supplied the engines and other key components for ACF to build the tractors.  Whatever Key components means!!  I don't know for sure but I imagine the winches and blades were purchased separately and added to the tractors.

 


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1 year 10 months ago #244693 by Kurt Bangert
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From the Stuart Tank Museum, more to come - look in the historical photo thread

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1 year 10 months ago #244699 by Deas Plant.
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Hi, Kurt.
It is my understanding that Cat did not start building blades, CCUs, etc., until after the war 'cos LeTourneau had started building his self-propelled scrapers in 1938 and Cat could not see the point of having his products in competition with their own through their shared marketing deal. It appears that wartime production prevented them from getting started on their 'roll-yer-own' attachmenst program but they got started pretty quick after the war ended - 1946, I think.

www.oemoffhighway.com/trends/article/220...t-true-motor-scraper

Hi, bruce oz.
I think Cat probably supplied the engines and drive train and left ACF to build the rest.

Hi, John Gaunt.
That last photo IS of an IH TD18 complete with the full width seat which I think was a U.S. Marines specification.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
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1 year 10 months ago #244714 by Ray54
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Seeing the IH TD 18 in the last picture had me wondering if anyone knew if IH or AC had other companies build tractors/dozer for the war effort as Cat did.

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1 year 10 months ago #244720 by Deebo
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Seeing the IH TD 18 in the last picture had me wondering if anyone knew if IH or AC had other companies build tractors/dozer for the war effort as Cat did.
 

I wondered that too!

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