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Claremontcat
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Tried Liquid Wrench and tighten first, then added pipe wrench hit by big hammer while pushing on breaker bar, just stripped teeth off (cheap) pipe wrench. Thinking of heating nut w/ MAP gas torch.  Anyone fought a big nut and won?
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Wed, Aug 3, 2022 4:37 AM
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Hmmm.. maybe try a long cheater? Large impact?
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Wed, Aug 3, 2022 4:56 AM
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Hmmm.. maybe try a long cheater? Large impact?
Check out Jpaydirt on YouTube D9h part 10. Great way to loosen a tight nut.
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Wed, Aug 3, 2022 7:31 AM
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Watched the Jpaydirt video - spoiler alert, they used backhoe to push on wrench - and I found a 2-1/2" wrench on Ebay that looks strong enough to hit with sledge hammer or push on with backhoe. I thought the 1" drive socket and breaker bar would do the job, but the way it flexes makes me think I could break the tool before the nut comes loose.
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Wed, Aug 3, 2022 9:07 AM
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Reply to Claremontcat:
Watched the Jpaydirt video - spoiler alert, they used backhoe to push on wrench - and I found a 2-1/2" wrench on Ebay that looks strong enough to hit with sledge hammer or push on with backhoe. I thought the 1" drive socket and breaker bar would do the job, but the way it flexes makes me think I could break the tool before the nut comes loose.
Why are you removing that nut?
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Wed, Aug 3, 2022 9:26 AM
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Why are you removing that nut?
Removing nut to build a hitch for a log arch - copying design from photo of Hyster hitch that went with the D2N winch.
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Wed, Aug 3, 2022 10:18 AM
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Removing nut to build a hitch for a log arch - copying design from photo of Hyster hitch that went with the D2N winch.
There were several different designs and different nuts for those hitches, I can help you with pictures and dimensions if you need it when the time comes. Those nuts are usually pretty snug, but will come off with a big impact wrench or a slugging wrench, just takes some persistence.
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Wed, Aug 3, 2022 11:38 AM
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Watched the Jpaydirt video - spoiler alert, they used backhoe to push on wrench - and I found a 2-1/2" wrench on Ebay that looks strong enough to hit with sledge hammer or push on with backhoe. I thought the 1" drive socket and breaker bar would do the job, but the way it flexes makes me think I could break the tool before the nut comes loose.
[quote="Claremontcat post=239710 userid=16625"]I thought the 1" drive socket and breaker bar would do the job, but the way it flexes makes me think I could break the tool before the nut comes loose.
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Unless the 1" handle is low quality you should not be able to break it. I have had a 6 foot piece of pipe on my tee handle and doesn't even look like breaking. For a nut that size you could also try using two hammers to persuade it a bit. Use one as a dolly and hit the opposite side of the nut. i have had nuts come loose just using that method.
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Wed, Aug 3, 2022 3:25 PM
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[quote="Claremontcat post=239710 userid=16625"]I thought the 1" drive socket and breaker bar would do the job, but the way it flexes makes me think I could break the tool before the nut comes loose.
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Unless the 1" handle is low quality you should not be able to break it. I have had a 6 foot piece of pipe on my tee handle and doesn't even look like breaking. For a nut that size you could also try using two hammers to persuade it a bit. Use one as a dolly and hit the opposite side of the nut. i have had nuts come loose just using that method.
Heat it with a acetylene torch and make it red orange. Hit it with one of those Milwaukee M18 3/4" impact guns. They are very impressive. That may be all you need without any heat.
I doubt you'll make it hot enough with a MAPP gas torch.
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Wed, Aug 3, 2022 8:38 PM
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Heat it with a acetylene torch and make it red orange. Hit it with one of those Milwaukee M18 3/4" impact guns. They are very impressive. That may be all you need without any heat.
I doubt you'll make it hot enough with a MAPP gas torch.
heat it with a proper heating tip and oxy-lpg(propane) ( much better for heating) let it cool and try again (mapp torches are for soldering plumbing). if you have a cutting torch get a piece half inch plate and cut out a slogging spanner as its made of steel plate it doesn't matter if you bend it where as big spanners get expensive fast.

a mix of kerosene and diesel works well but it takes time soak it heavily and let it work reapply as it soaks in.
that thread might be a bit burred over file it tapered a bit that might help ive chased burred threads with triangle files and a hacksaw blade.

ive done as phil suggested too it works surprisingly well some thing about actually getting a proper hit on the part, the second hammer sort of acts like a mirror and reflects the force dont ask me the physics ive just had it work. works well on tie-rod ends and ball joints

"i reject your reality and substitute my own" - adam savage. i suspect my final words maybe "well shit, that didnt work"

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Thu, Aug 4, 2022 5:53 PM
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heat it with a proper heating tip and oxy-lpg(propane) ( much better for heating) let it cool and try again (mapp torches are for soldering plumbing). if you have a cutting torch get a piece half inch plate and cut out a slogging spanner as its made of steel plate it doesn't matter if you bend it where as big spanners get expensive fast.

a mix of kerosene and diesel works well but it takes time soak it heavily and let it work reapply as it soaks in.
that thread might be a bit burred over file it tapered a bit that might help ive chased burred threads with triangle files and a hacksaw blade.

ive done as phil suggested too it works surprisingly well some thing about actually getting a proper hit on the part, the second hammer sort of acts like a mirror and reflects the force dont ask me the physics ive just had it work. works well on tie-rod ends and ball joints
All great advice. Might try heat cool cycles, heat to red 400-550° then might try candle wax and let cool (map gas may not be hot enough). I weigh over 300lbs and bounced on my 1" braker bar with a 3 5/8" nut. That didn't work as well as I wanted so I gathered up a 15' cheater bar and bounced on it with everything I had until the nut was torqued to ~ tic tic pounds.😁 ~1400lbs - 1800lbs total guess. A good USA made 1' breaker bar should take the abuse.
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Thu, Aug 4, 2022 7:43 PM
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