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D4 7U injector service?

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Injector questions... my D4 7U has a slight miss at idle, looking for information on pulling injectors to inspect/service. Are these able to be gone through on the bench or do I need to drop off at an injector shop?  Thanks. 
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Wed, Dec 29, 2021 10:46 PM
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You can check some things on the bench such as spray pattern and dribble if you have an injection tester. You could also check basic pump operation and configuration first. If you pull the exhaust manifold off or use a stethoscope, you can check which cylinder is missing, then move the injectors and pumps separately to isolate the cylinder.
You can fit new nozzles to the injectors - they're under $20 each from your dealer so that's an easy step. To move injectors / replace tips, you'll need the injector nut removal tools and a set of o-rings. Be prepared for the possibility of needing to replace some precombustion chambers, and maybe have someone tee'd up to send you an injector or two if it's determined you need them.
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Wed, Dec 29, 2021 10:58 PM
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Reply to neil:
You can check some things on the bench such as spray pattern and dribble if you have an injection tester. You could also check basic pump operation and configuration first. If you pull the exhaust manifold off or use a stethoscope, you can check which cylinder is missing, then move the injectors and pumps separately to isolate the cylinder.
You can fit new nozzles to the injectors - they're under $20 each from your dealer so that's an easy step. To move injectors / replace tips, you'll need the injector nut removal tools and a set of o-rings. Be prepared for the possibility of needing to replace some precombustion chambers, and maybe have someone tee'd up to send you an injector or two if it's determined you need them.
you can remove the injector and injection line. turn the line to the outside reinstall the injector onto the line and then use the pony engine to turn the big engine while you observe the injector for malfunction.

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Thu, Dec 30, 2021 12:49 AM
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you can remove the injector and injection line. turn the line to the outside reinstall the injector onto the line and then use the pony engine to turn the big engine while you observe the injector for malfunction.
Like this ole timer at 6:40
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Like this ole timer at 6:40
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The U series tractors have the capsule type injectors/nozzles, which are not easily tested off the cat for function. Usually the way to deal with a suspect injector, is first determine which cylinder is missing by cracking the injector lines one at a time until you locate the bad cylinder, then you can swap the injector on the bad cylinder for a good one and see if the problem follows the injector, if the problem is the injector/nozzle, replace with new, preferably all. If not the injector next things to consider are, the injection pump for that cylinder, valve settings and condition, pulling injectors is not too hard
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Thu, Dec 30, 2021 4:34 AM
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Here are the pages from the service manual for the D315 engine in your tractor.
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Thu, Dec 30, 2021 7:01 AM
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Here are the pages from the service manual for the D315 engine in your tractor.
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Heat gun on the exhaust manifold will often show a cooler temperature for the offending cylinder. Very easy initial check no dismantling required.
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Thu, Dec 30, 2021 2:25 PM
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Heat gun on the exhaust manifold will often show a cooler temperature for the offending cylinder. Very easy initial check no dismantling required.
Hey Gary-
I’ve watched the video three times. Great info-another useful resource you’ve shared. Thanks!

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Sat, Jan 1, 2022 4:46 AM
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Hey Gary-
I’ve watched the video three times. Great info-another useful resource you’ve shared. Thanks!

Cheers-
Bernie
Hi Team,
checking exhaust manifold port temperatures is not always straight forward, as in a 4 cylinder engine for example the centre 2 ports will be slightly warmer than those at each end due to the end cylinder gasses passing the centre ports as well. Also the port nearest the fan will be cooler than the one at the rear due to the fan airflow having a cooling effect at that port--however a lazy or misfiring cylinder will generally be somewhat cooler than the others.
After some practice it is possible to use the infrared gun successfully to troubleshoot for lazy cylinders bearing in mind the above variations.
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