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D4 D315 Motor question

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3 years 1 week ago #232962 by noahthompson
Hey everyone, I currently have a d4 7u that the motor has had an extremly rough life and needs extensive repair. Im currently looking for a replacement option found this parts machine in the attached photo. Owner says its a d4 3T, My thought is the 3t has the d4400 engine and not the d315. Serial number plate is extremly hard to read and cant make anything out in it. If someone can Id it from the picture that would be great. Thank you!!
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3 years 1 week ago #232963 by Rome K/G
Replied by Rome K/G on topic D4 D315 Motor question
Yes thats a D4400 from a 5T series D4, it would be a downgrade from the D315. I'd locate another 315
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3 years 1 week ago - 3 years 1 week ago #232964 by Mike Meyer
Replied by Mike Meyer on topic D4 D315 Motor question
As Rome says, engine is a no go, but my understanding is the D4 5T shares basically the same transmission housing and final drives with the 6U / 7U, so if your machine might need back end parts too, that donor machine might be handy for things like sprockets or bottom rollers, bullgears or transmission gears.

For example I used the upper transmission shaft and later model helical cut crown wheel and pinion out of a D4 6U/7U to save a early D4 7J built in 1939 that has the D4400 engine, and straight cut crown and pinion gears.

The best way to be certain is to look at the Parts Number book for each model, and I think they will be found in the Technical Library in the forum though accessible only to ACMOC financial members, so think about joining ACMOC, its cheap relative to the cost of saving a dead Cat, maybe $30 or $40 a year, that wouldn't even buy you 10 minutes talking to a Cat Dealer Mechanic who probably has never worked on a early D4..........
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3 years 1 week ago - 3 years 1 week ago #232966 by Old Magnet
Replied by Old Magnet on topic D4 D315 Motor question
Either a 2Txxxx or 5Txxxx D4  would have the D4400.
A 3Txxxx s/n is for a D7.
D4400 engine can be interchanged with the D315 but your going backwards with power and parts availability.
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3 years 1 week ago - 3 years 1 week ago #232968 by Fat Dan
Replied by Fat Dan on topic D4 D315 Motor question
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The D315:
Don't over look 955C-955E (12Axxx), Industrial (stationary), Gensets or Marine D315's .. The Marine applications, I believe, run at a little lower rpm and are probably not the best replacement options (I think the marine models have brass journals as well).

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Traxcavator: 60, 955E 12A08263; 57, 955C 12A04040; 57, 955C 12A03563.
1954 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 8T14777.
1945 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 9K9320; 9K9982
1944-46 Adams Model No. 311 Motor Grader
1943 IH T9 Tractor w/ Bullgrader Blade
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3 years 1 week ago #232969 by Fat Dan
Replied by Fat Dan on topic D4 D315 Motor question
Been looking a little closer and find the D315 sears engine are not as interchangeable as I had thought.Though it can be done just keep an eye on clearances.
 
 

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Traxcavator: 60, 955E 12A08263; 57, 955C 12A04040; 57, 955C 12A03563.
1954 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 8T14777.
1945 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 9K9320; 9K9982
1944-46 Adams Model No. 311 Motor Grader
1943 IH T9 Tractor w/ Bullgrader Blade
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3 years 8 hours ago #233356 by noahthompson
Replied by noahthompson on topic D4 D315 Motor question
Thank you everyone for there help!!

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