bursitis wrote:

the 9K i used to have had the exact set up in the pic. it would steer fine without the hydraulic assist functioning. you can help by over inflating the front tires but it shouldn't be all that much trouble. a little forward movement makes a world of difference. if your kingpins are frozen jack up the front and steer back and forth while greasing with a gun full of oil instead of grease.
 

That sounds like a plan, humm interesting oil instead of grease, ATF has more detergents ... I have just the grease gun for that ...
Thanks for staying with me here everyone. I was pulling with the 8T and my son was in the 9K and said it would not turn "at all", he has never ran equipment "at all". B ursitis , you say the steering should turn, turn hard but turn non-the-less, I assume like a car with power steering but not running. I guess the 9K deserves another try after a closer inspection of the front axles. The temperature has been mostly below zero for nearly two weeks now so when it warms up I'll attack the front end of that puppy ... If I don't have it hauled home first.
THANKS EVERYONE for your help.

 


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Hi, Fat Dan.
Another 'trick' that would likely allow you to tow the 9K home would be to make up a SHORT - about 3 feet - rigid tow bar which would pretty make the front wheels follow you. You would just need somebody on the 9K to keep the steering centered.

Just my 0.02.

Deas Plant. post=233027 userid=933Hi, Fat Dan.
Another 'trick' that would likely allow you to tow the 9K home would be to make up a SHORT - about 3 feet - rigid tow bar which would pretty make the front wheels follow you. You would just need somebody on the 9K to keep the steering centered.

Just my 0.02.

I really did think of that first . That's my idea everyone. I'm embarrassed to say it but that was my first thought.
Believe it or not, about ten years ago, that's how I towed my Adams 311 Motor Grader for about a mile with my 2000, 1500 Chevy 4x4 pickup. I used a scarifier cutting edge and pinned it to the Adams (up n down movement) and bolted a plate to the other end of the cutting edge then shekeled the plate to the pintle hitch (side to side movement) on the pickup. I think the 311 Adams is right at 21,000lbs and the road was flat and for the most part straight. I didn't think that would work here due to some sharp corners and a bit of a hill but now I think I'll need to revisit the idea. I also needed to check more things out on the 8T (lubes n what-not) before I felt comfortable enough to pull the 9K with a four or five foot towbar. I do have a longer cutting edge now.
Thanks for your 2¢ that dose make a lot of since but sense it's only two pinnies I'll pay you back a nickel someday, don't let me forget...LOL. 
scarifier cutting edge
 

shackle, shackle that's spelled s h a c k l e! DAN
The editor would not let me change it ?????

Deas Plant.
So you think the shorter towbar will work better to tow with? Then I'll try the shorter one first.
Thanks so much

Hi, Fat Dan.
You only need enough length to enable you to make the tightest turns you will have to make to 'gitterdunn'. The shorter the towbar is, the more control you will have over the front end of the towed unit.

Just my 0.02.

Deas wrote:

Hi, Fat Dan.
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Just my 0.02.
 

2¢ more that's at least a dime I.O.U. now LOL
Yeah, think I'll go out tomorrow after it warms up some (-13*F now) and dig out the old cutting edge and round up some shackles. Chain up that bad chicken AT UM the 8T and just go get the SOB, the 9K, ... like you say getter-dunn 👍

Hi, Fat Dan.
UGOGETTEM!

Just my 0.02.

Got the 9K home finally, made a towbar and pulled it with the 8K
 
 

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Thanks everyone for your help and advice it was much appreciated.