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D6C Part Numbers

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3 years 2 months ago #231441 by edb
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Hi Team,
just as an aside to get closer or more accurate assistance.
In this era Cat used Engine Serial Numbers and Arrangement Numbers to complicate matters as some engines have Sleeve metering Injection Pumps and others had the usual Scroll Injection Pumps. This altered the turbo oil lines and other components.
I do have a 69J2539-up D6C P/Book with the 44V1-up Engine range.
In the Parts Book the Engine Arrangement Numbers (like 2P6795 or 4N7365) allow one to zero in on the actual Group Number of the parts used to make up the engine arrangement--this explains why Kittylover123 was somewhat vague about some part numbers.
This is complicated for the average person but gets one the actual parts used and not a guess at what may be used.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

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3 years 2 months ago #231456 by Xtremist
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youve been a great help, i very much appreciate it ! you wouldnt happen to know where to get a manual would you, 69J2622 seems to be a really hard machine to get a manual for. ebay has lots that up to a 25 series.....the manual that i was waiting on ended up getting damaged before shipping, so thats the end of that :/

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3 years 2 months ago #231457 by Xtremist
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Hi Team,
just as an aside to get closer or more accurate assistance.
In this era Cat used Engine Serial Numbers and Arrangement Numbers to complicate matters as some engines have Sleeve metering Injection Pumps and others had the usual Scroll Injection Pumps. This altered the turbo oil lines and other components.
I do have a 69J2539-up D6C P/Book with the 44V1-up Engine range.
In the Parts Book the Engine Arrangement Numbers (like 2P6795 or 4N7365) allow one to zero in on the actual Group Number of the parts used to make up the engine arrangement--this explains why Kittylover123 was somewhat vague about some part numbers.
This is complicated for the average person but gets one the actual parts used and not a guess at what may be used.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
 

you wouldnt be interested in selling that book would you ?  my serial number seems to be hard to get a book for...

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3 years 2 months ago #231460 by edb
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Hi Xtremist,
Sorry no, as I use it help others here and it has parts for the injection pump types that your and other machines use especially the Sleeve Metering unit is the only P/Book I have with that unit in.
Not sure if there is a P/Book in the Library on here that you could look up.
I got my P/Book from the Dealer I worked at when they decided to dispose of P/Books way back.

Form No is XMBP9504 Printed 7/76 in Japan. I think from memory that the XM means X-Japan, M-Mitsubishi who built these and other Cat machines under license. Most machines up to D7 size if I recall.

69J is Equivalent of the 10K from USA, and the 47J United Kingdom, and a 56J from Australia which would be hard to find.
Regards,
Eddie B.

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3 years 2 months ago - 3 years 2 months ago #231476 by Xtremist
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there are lots of 10k books floating around, are they all the same as a 69j or is there a certain serial number range that i should shoot for ?  or am i better off getting an up to 69j2538 book ?  (mine is 69j2622) ?  do they have the scroll metering injection system ?  there is a parts book here but not for my serial number and some of it is very hard to read...
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3 years 2 months ago #231477 by kittyman1
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as Ed mentions, arrangement and engine numbers help, lot's of changes were happening back then, different injection pumps and even turbo's i think..

-my parts book is actually 10K1 to 10K7952
-not sure how easy it is to find 99J parts book, the 10K series was a very good run
-haven't had to order any engine parts myself so it may not be absolute gospel but very close

always dropping GOLD, all you have to do is just pick it UP !
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3 years 2 months ago #231479 by edb
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Hi Team,
I have not seen Comparative Serial Number lists that show exact S/No equivalents--only the prefix's.
We had some Scottish mechanics at our Dealership and they said some of the British and/or French machines of the day had Bosch injection pumps on them just to confuse it all further.
From this I would say the 10K would be your best purchase.

The USA built 10K ran from 1967 to 1976 and the Japanese built 69J ran from 1968 to 1977 so a 10K book with S/No's slightly above your 69J would likely suffice.
The Sleeve Metering fuel system was a Japanese invention we were told back in the day as it suited their fuels of the day.
A Sleeve Metering fuel injection pump can be identified by it having a big cover plate bolted to the side of the injection pump body. I cannot say if the 10K has these fitted in the USA.

Scan below shows an in-line S/Metering injection pump and gives where to carry out bleeding air out of the governor housing after servicing the fuel filter or running out of fuel--highly recommended to not do this with this pump, or if you encounter excessive time cranking over to get it to start--air gets trapped in the gov hsg. under pressure and bleeds back into the injection plunger section lowering the fuel level below the injection pump ports and needs to be compressed back into the gov. hsg. by the transfer pump and lots of cranking to raise the fuel level for a start to be enabled.
I stand to be corrected.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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