Hanna the Grader gets new glass (and decal question)

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Today launched the beginning of the aesthetic phase of Hanna's rejuvenation process, replacing all the cracked glass in the cab. The fellow removing the door glass is a journeyman glazier, providing glazing service to heavy equipment all over Yukon, Northern BC and parts of Alberta. Great fun to watch someone who really knows their stuff. And I learned a lot, too.

The more observant among readers may notice that the decal says 14E, when Hanna is a 12F. The story behind that is the previous owner's having a contract that would not allow Cat 12's for the job. (Too old? I have no idea.) So he turned his 12F into a 14E. Easy peasy! [img]/media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png[/img] Which raises a question: Where might one source a 12F decal?

Finally, is there a recommended source for old Caterpillar yellow? (=12.0ptCat # 4C-4185, PPG# 80453 Dupont # 421A are the paint codes I found on the site.) I'm only looking for a spray can or two at this point.

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Thu, Apr 22, 2021 7:08 AM

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I've found a few decal sources online, prices ranging from USD$75 to $155 for a set that includes much more than I need. (I'm just looking for the two decals on the side of the cab.) One source, www.esignsplus.com, will sell a set of the cab side decals (2 big 'C's and 2 big 12Fs) for USD$49.85 all in. Would prefer to buy from ACMOC if a 12F set was available, but 12Fs are not listed on their order sheet.

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Thu, Apr 22, 2021 7:47 AM

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I've found a few decal sources online, prices ranging from USD$75 to $155 for a set that includes much more than I need. (I'm just looking for the two decals on the side of the cab.) One source, www.esignsplus.com, will sell a set of the cab side decals (2 big 'C's and 2 big 12Fs) for USD$49.85 all in. Would prefer to buy from ACMOC if a 12F set was available, but 12Fs are not listed on their order sheet.

Was the Caterpillar "C" decal an original on your grader? I can't remember when the "C" came into existence but I thought it was in the 60's. I have had good luck buying transfer decals for a scraper on line and only later found out they were the same as on other Caterpillars through ACMOC. Great that you found a guy that can fit the glass in Hanna. My grader windows looked like yours after we had a horrific hail storm here in Kansas and it was difficult to find anyone to replace the glass. As for paint I have not been a purist but have used Highway Yellow that I got years ago through Rustoleum that seems to be very close to the Cat Yellow. There are others on the board that know a lot more about paint than I do. I'm net even sure when Cat went to the modern yellow.

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Thu, Apr 22, 2021 9:55 AM

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Was the Caterpillar "C" decal an original on your grader? I can't remember when the "C" came into existence but I thought it was in the 60's. I have had good luck buying transfer decals for a scraper on line and only later found out they were the same as on other Caterpillars through ACMOC. Great that you found a guy that can fit the glass in Hanna. My grader windows looked like yours after we had a horrific hail storm here in Kansas and it was difficult to find anyone to replace the glass. As for paint I have not been a purist but have used Highway Yellow that I got years ago through Rustoleum that seems to be very close to the Cat Yellow. There are others on the board that know a lot more about paint than I do. I'm net even sure when Cat went to the modern yellow.

The Caterpillar C decal is original on the '68 12F's. At least all the photos I see of equivalent machines sport the C. You've got an interesting stable machines, D4Jiim!

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Thu, Apr 22, 2021 11:04 AM

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This should give you some help and warning .. a sensitive area to be leaking
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Sorry this new format has me running in circles ...or is yours the power shift? S/N 89H ?

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Sat, Apr 24, 2021 8:36 AM

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Sorry this new format has me running in circles ...or is yours the power shift? S/N 89H ?

[quote] Sorry this new format has me running in circles ...or is yours the power shift? S/N 89H ?[/quote]
Not sure what having a power shift would indicate. (Did I mention that I am a newbie at all this?) But my S/N is 59H498. So if the 89H's have power shifts, than that must be what I have. All I know is that I have a clutch and two gear shift levers. One lever shifts between high and low range. The other shifts between 3 speeds forward and 3 speeds reverse. (For a total of 6 speeds in total in high and low range.)

To what would the 'power' in power shift refer?

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Sat, Apr 24, 2021 9:42 AM

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[quote] Sorry this new format has me running in circles ...or is yours the power shift? S/N 89H ?[/quote]
Not sure what having a power shift would indicate. (Did I mention that I am a newbie at all this?) But my S/N is 59H498. So if the 89H's have power shifts, than that must be what I have. All I know is that I have a clutch and two gear shift levers. One lever shifts between high and low range. The other shifts between 3 speeds forward and 3 speeds reverse. (For a total of 6 speeds in total in high and low range.)

To what would the 'power' in power shift refer?

If it is a power shift there will be small console next to the drivers seat and if it is a direct drive there will be two long shift levers coming out of the floor boards. PS means one can shift gears under load without needing to stop and change gears. I have driven both but don't know the exact designations.

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Sat, Apr 24, 2021 10:33 AM

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If it is a power shift there will be small console next to the drivers seat and if it is a direct drive there will be two long shift levers coming out of the floor boards. PS means one can shift gears under load without needing to stop and change gears. I have driven both but don't know the exact designations.

In that case, it is most definitely NOT a power shift. There are two long levers coming out of the floor and no small console next to the driver's seat. And it is definitely not possible to shift gears under a load. Thanks, D4Jim.

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Sat, Apr 24, 2021 10:46 AM

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[quote]Not sure what having a power shift would indicate. (Did I mention that I am a newbie at all this?) But my S/N is 59H498. [/quote]
Sorry this newer format has me stepping and a fetching; Let me decipher my notes here; 12F 59H00498... The 59H prefix (series) was produced in a Canadian factory and starting production in 1966... 498 is a lower number (Cat now uses a five or more diget numeral format so 498 can also be written as 0049😎. pic #1 (12F Hanna04.jpg) And the US 12F series is the 73G and started production in 1965.
pic # 3 (12F Hanna01.jpg) states your series 59H is a Direct Drive Electric Start; ya might call it a manual manual transmission[img]/media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png[/img] and a Power Shift would ba a type of hydrostate transmission... the Electric start or Direct Start w/12, 24 and 30/32Volt starting/charging systems and glow plugs had been big selling points..more brighter lights AR, AR, AR [img]/media/kunena/emoticons/w00t.png[/img]
So in pic #2 (12F Hanna06.jpg) says both the 12F 13K and the 89H series use the 3306 with engine s/n 3N.... STICK A PIN in that for a minute.

Now in pic # 4 the US 12F 13k series starting in1967 and the Canadian12F 33K seires starting in 1968 ..

Missing pic 1; shows the 13K series and the 33K series are "Equivalent Serial/Product Identification Number Index"
Missing pic 2; shows the 59H and the 73G seares are "Equivalent Serial/Product Identification Number Index"
Missing pic 3; The 89H series Power Shft (196😎 has no "Equivalent Serial/Product Identification Number Index"

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