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Late 1958 D4 7U

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1 year 5 months ago #248788 by juiceman
Replied by juiceman on topic Late 1958 D4 7U
After all of the bolts, hardware removed, you can pry upwards with a bar and it should pop free; I have slid a board or small section of plywood underneath and slid to the side without the aid of an engine hoist or crane/lift. Be extremely cautious and be sure that ALL of the bolts are removed. Use a good flashlight, as they hard to see tucked behind the main engine.
Some folks will coat the new gasket with grease or anti-seize in case they need to remove it in the future. Me? I traced the new one on the hard cardboard that it came in for future reference. JM

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1 year 5 months ago #248801 by projectanavita
Replied by projectanavita on topic Late 1958 D4 7U

If you can get your footing, you can lift it off by hand.

Yeah the issue was the welded on cab overhead making it very odd to lift solo. 

We ended up using my rock climbing gear with a capture device (meaning the rope wont slip down after pulled through) and had two of us lift the motor while a third person took in the slack on the capture device. I already have the motor back in place now so I can just get to using it ... we might repair it later but for now we need the machine so threw on a 42MT which I am wiring up today. 

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1 year 5 months ago - 1 year 5 months ago #249128 by projectanavita
Replied by projectanavita on topic Late 1958 D4 7U
Trying to adjust clutch again and i cant get it to "snap" into engagement. Tried to adjust arm which pushes the assembly but that seems to already be as far out as it can go. Thoughts?

 just backed my clutch adjustment off and now it engages but that likely set it back to where i started which means the machine will likely out of engagement and not push a load
Last edit: 1 year 5 months ago by projectanavita. Reason: Update

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1 year 5 months ago #249129 by neil
Replied by neil on topic Late 1958 D4 7U
It takes either 13 or 30 (someone will correct me : ) #s of pull on the clutch to over-center it, so don't be shy with it in case you were. But if that's not the problem, you might have have worn linkages and pins. It doesn't move much even when new so when you adjust, make sure you adjust it for quite a hard over-center (and perhaps only just making over-center), and then put it on your to-do list to fix the linkage up. Pins are available new, linkages are just plain straps and you can get your local machinist to whip 8 new ones up with a snug fit on the pins. If the holes in the spider are worn badly, you can drill them out to the next pin size. Either way you might want new straps because it could be challenging to drill out the old ones so that the hole center distance is identical on them all, which it kind of has to be

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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1 year 4 months ago - 1 year 4 months ago #249308 by projectanavita
Replied by projectanavita on topic Late 1958 D4 7U
So apparently some water, or coolant, got in the clutch housing ... I suspect when the pony was leaking post reinstall combined with having the beast up on a near 100% grade for a day ... Almost all of the "oil" foamed out somehow onto the ground where I parked Brutus to cool down while I ran another machine ... noticed the coolant / oil mix on ground in bulk.

Popped off housing and noticed the loveliness inside ... I believe this means I need to "clean" the clutch housing with diesel ... was debating putting it in a sprayer or something so I can spray it on and "wash" the water down to the bottom to drain.
Last edit: 1 year 4 months ago by projectanavita. Reason: typo

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1 year 4 months ago #249330 by trainzkid88
Replied by trainzkid88 on topic Late 1958 D4 7U
yep a sprayer thats suitable for brake cleaner would work well.

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1 year 4 months ago #249331 by trainzkid88
Replied by trainzkid88 on topic Late 1958 D4 7U
also a engine cleaning gun would be perfect.

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5 months 4 days ago #257585 by projectanavita
Replied by projectanavita on topic Late 1958 D4 7U
About to start what seems like my annual clutch adjustment this season ... was hoping to get my septic in before needing to do any maintenance this year but I suspect another adjustment is required. Had to go back and look at my notes on how to do it so I could get it done faster :D

After nearly 3/4 of a days work I noticed the lever arm throwing itself into a disengaged state under load ... by the end of the day I had to hold it in place for it to allow the machine to push some sand :/

NEED URGENT ADVICE, I got the tabs free in < 1 hour of tooling but the plate will not turn in without rotating the whole clutch. Thoughts? I could rotate it backwards but not clockwise.

Some extra content, tools I use and process for rotating for those with similar adjustment from top to turn fly wheel.

Setup for loosening the tabs:
 

Setup for turning the flywheel:
 

Put the flywheel tool on the 3/4 nut and push down as far as you can go:
 

This will set up the next 3/4 bolt to turn in this position:
 
 
Attachments:

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5 months 3 days ago #257597 by projectanavita
Replied by projectanavita on topic Late 1958 D4 7U
Ok, got it all back together and left it as is when I discovered there was a lot of CO missing in the clutch case (Yeah of course I jumped right on it without checking, well I should say checking while off vs running) ... Must have slowly seeped out over winter, or so I hope given the cost of oil these days.

Will run Brutus tomorrow when conditions are dryer and confirm he is "fixed" for now ... still bothers me I couldn't turn the clutch adjustment in further though. I even went so far as to move the clutch lever a bit, and some other odd things to help coax it along.

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5 months 3 days ago #257598 by 8C 361
Replied by 8C 361 on topic Late 1958 D4 7U
And the oil clutch was supposed to be an improvement?

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