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Can somebody please tell me a number for Ditzler or DuPont highway yellow paint so I don't have to buy it from the Caterpillar dealer. I know I saw a DuPont number at one time in the Forum, but I can't locate it now. All the threads I look at point to the Caterpillar dealer for the paint, but I am sure that other manufacturers have a code for it. Anybody got it? Thanks.
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Tue, Aug 5, 2008 6:12 AM
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If it does not get posted by tomorrow I will get the number off a can I have of it at work. A dupont #
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Tue, Aug 5, 2008 7:49 AM
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If it does not get posted by tomorrow I will get the number off a can I have of it at work. A dupont #
The cat paint is nice to work with, and cost isn't that bad. Why not the cat paint?
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Tue, Aug 5, 2008 7:54 AM
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The cat paint is nice to work with, and cost isn't that bad. Why not the cat paint?
The number for DuPonts Acrylic Enamel is 421A. It sprays and covers well, but its also pricey compared to Cats paints, or Rustoleum, or others.
Here are a couple of pics of a D-2 painted with the 421A.
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Tue, Aug 5, 2008 9:14 AM
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The number for DuPonts Acrylic Enamel is 421A. It sprays and covers well, but its also pricey compared to Cats paints, or Rustoleum, or others.
Here are a couple of pics of a D-2 painted with the 421A.
Thanks to ypou who responded to my inquiry about highway yellow paint. I called a DuPont dealer and and was quoted a price of $145.90 per gallon for their #421A paint plus the necessary hardener plus the necessary thinner. Next I called a dealer in Ohio who had the highway yellow in stock. He told me that the shipping would be outrageous because of the hazardous materials surcharge and that it would be way more than the gas it would take to drive to my closest dealer 60 miles away. I called my dealer, Milton Cat in Batavia, NY, and they had the two gallons I needed. When I went there they assured me that the #4C4185 was the correct authentic color for the old highway yellow. Their price was $56.34 per gallon plus $16.78 for a gallon of the recommended thinner #4C4189. When I got home I stirred up a gallon and took the paint stir stick out to one of my freshly cleaned D2's and it was a perfect match. I am very happy with the whole transaction. I hope this helps the other people who need to paint their Cats, and I hope this puts to rest all the other numbers, names, and formulas that I have seen floating around. This is the real deal!
Also, the folks at Milton Cat told me that they don't always have this paint in inventory, and sometimes it must be ordered, so it would be prudent to call ahead to your Cat dealer and see if they have it in stock.
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Wed, Aug 6, 2008 6:53 AM
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do you know if you can get the old cat grey at a dealer also.
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Wed, Aug 6, 2008 5:10 PM
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do you know if you can get the old cat grey at a dealer also.
You could ask them but I seriously doubt it. ACMOC has a list of paint codes for the early colors. Try them. Good luck, John
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Thu, Aug 7, 2008 9:06 AM
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You could ask them but I seriously doubt it. ACMOC has a list of paint codes for the early colors. Try them. Good luck, John
John, the numbers at the ACMOC site are Federal Standard #s. I have gotten them matched fom Dupont in Nason or Diamond Vogel paint. That is the gray and red.
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Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:49 AM
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John, the numbers at the ACMOC site are Federal Standard #s. I have gotten them matched fom Dupont in Nason or Diamond Vogel paint. That is the gray and red.
Don't forget that 2 part Dupont paint-probably polyurethane- is much more expensinve that the ordinary alkyde enamel that cat is selling and it will stay glossy years longer. Jim PS There is a tugboat company in boston that undercoats with 2 part epoxy, final color coates with 2 part polyurethane and finishes with a polyclearcoat. They look like megayacths and they work 24 hrs a day and this finish lasts ten + years.
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Sat, Aug 16, 2008 3:21 AM
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Don't forget that 2 part Dupont paint-probably polyurethane- is much more expensinve that the ordinary alkyde enamel that cat is selling and it will stay glossy years longer. Jim PS There is a tugboat company in boston that undercoats with 2 part epoxy, final color coates with 2 part polyurethane and finishes with a polyclearcoat. They look like megayacths and they work 24 hrs a day and this finish lasts ten + years.
I have found that DuPont or Ditzler/PPG paints are much superior to most anything out there when it comes to durability and long lasting finish, when proper preparation has been done before spraying. Any paint will look good when it is new, the difference starts to show after a couple of years. It is just a matter of what results you are looking to achieve. Say if it is just a hobby machine and all you want is some fresh color most any paint will do the job just fine. The machines I have restored for show got the best quality primers and paints I could find because of the extensive labor I invested in the preperation. Absolute cleanliness is mandatory or even expensive paints won't perform. I have sprayed cheaper paints as well as the top of the line and can without a doubt say you do still get what you pay for.
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Sat, Aug 16, 2008 3:54 AM
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I have found that DuPont or Ditzler/PPG paints are much superior to most anything out there when it comes to durability and long lasting finish, when proper preparation has been done before spraying. Any paint will look good when it is new, the difference starts to show after a couple of years. It is just a matter of what results you are looking to achieve. Say if it is just a hobby machine and all you want is some fresh color most any paint will do the job just fine. The machines I have restored for show got the best quality primers and paints I could find because of the extensive labor I invested in the preperation. Absolute cleanliness is mandatory or even expensive paints won't perform. I have sprayed cheaper paints as well as the top of the line and can without a doubt say you do still get what you pay for.
I am using cat paint, best price and covers very well. I am not using there reducer, instead I am using napa reducer and hardner. This is working very well for me. As far as the red and grey thing, good luck. Two different suppliers I have given the federal number to said no dice. They had no info for it. The best I could do on the grey is to get a color chart and match for the 60 I have. The same with the red. If you call Milton Cat you could mayby get the red because cat does still paint some machines red on special order. This is not going to be a stock item. Make sure that you use a good primer under what ever you are shooting. I have done some restoration work on a steam tractor for the Collings Foundation with owns the B-17 and B-24 that fly around the country giving rides and the paint materials alone were $4000.00. I am shooting napa TRIO-Prime. Cost about $180 for two gallons when reduced. The mix ratio is 1:1 base to reducer. It is a very good etching primer to use over sandblasted material. Cat yellow goes over it very nicely. Word of advice to all, switch to using HVLP gravity paint guns, I did. There is alot less overspray and paint goes on better. The next project is and 1852 stationary steam engine for a museum coming in sometime in September.
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