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bursitis
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on my D46U i decided to change the oil in the final drives and one of the drain plugs is stuck pretty hard. i had a 3/4 drive ratchet and a 2 foot cheater and still cant' get it to budge. so i put my milwaukee 1/2 inch drive impact on it and it is still stuck. should i warm it up with a torch a little??

D46U straight blade,D46U cat angle blade,allis chalmers AD4 grader and Khoering 404 dragline. D4C 40A,D4 2T and scraper.

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Mon, May 18, 2020 11:46 PM
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Yup, i'd warm it up some, or get a longer pipe, OR consider sucking it out the fill hole with something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JFJM14/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_V-RWEbWN8DSQ2 I'm not sure how well that would work though depending on being able to get the hose do get down in to the bottom of the finals.

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Yup, i'd warm it up some, or get a longer pipe, OR consider sucking it out the fill hole with something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JFJM14/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_V-RWEbWN8DSQ2 I'm not sure how well that would work though depending on being able to get the hose do get down in to the bottom of the finals.

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Which side is it?
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Tue, May 19, 2020 1:00 AM
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Hi Team,
usually the taper thread plugs become super stuck due to being screwing a cold plug back into a warm housing--the plug goes cold whilst the oil drains but heat is held in the housing.
Usually have to resort to a few decent square hits with a hammer to crush/stretch the threads a bit and often they come out using a hardened square adaptor--people find that they screw the square off their socket bar at the detent ball drilling 😞

People found out early on with T Fords having tapered thread spark plugs about this issue of cold s/plugs into warm engines.
Be careful with gasketed straight thread plugs too as screwing cold plugs into an warm alloy head can stress the threads especially if they a dry of lube.

Screw the plugs in finger tight and allow them to equalize temperature for 2-3 minutes before tightening--if you use a set procedure for plug fitting they should not get left loose--and always go back and double check later to be sure they are tight.

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Eddie B.
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it is on the right side as you face the rear of the tractor.

D46U straight blade,D46U cat angle blade,allis chalmers AD4 grader and Khoering 404 dragline. D4C 40A,D4 2T and scraper.

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Tue, May 19, 2020 6:46 AM
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it is on the right side as you face the rear of the tractor.
Remove the whole fill assembly, I think it just threads into the rear face. Get it on the bench, you’ll win.

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Tue, May 19, 2020 7:39 AM
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Remove the whole fill assembly, I think it just threads into the rear face. Get it on the bench, you’ll win.

Have fun!
Bernie
[quote="bernie"]Remove the whole fill assembly, I think it just threads into the rear face. Get it on the bench, you’ll win.

Have fun!
Bernie[/quote]

it is the drain plug not a fill plug. and i have a winch.

D46U straight blade,D46U cat angle blade,allis chalmers AD4 grader and Khoering 404 dragline. D4C 40A,D4 2T and scraper.

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Tue, May 19, 2020 7:59 AM
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[quote="bernie"]Remove the whole fill assembly, I think it just threads into the rear face. Get it on the bench, you’ll win.

Have fun!
Bernie[/quote]

it is the drain plug not a fill plug. and i have a winch.
I would try a longer bar and use a breaker bar, that side you have to pull up on the wrench. Or locate a 3/4" impact. May have to back it on some blocks to raise the back up to get some more room to work.
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I would try a longer bar and use a breaker bar, that side you have to pull up on the wrench. Or locate a 3/4" impact. May have to back it on some blocks to raise the back up to get some more room to work.


i have already tried the impact. i think i will back it up on some blocks then warm it up and get a good cheater.

D46U straight blade,D46U cat angle blade,allis chalmers AD4 grader and Khoering 404 dragline. D4C 40A,D4 2T and scraper.

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Tue, May 19, 2020 9:37 AM
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I would try a longer bar and use a breaker bar, that side you have to pull up on the wrench. Or locate a 3/4" impact. May have to back it on some blocks to raise the back up to get some more room to work.
When removing plugs like this I heat the area around the plug so the metal expands away from the plug i.e. like heating a rim to put on a wagon wheel except backwards. I heat an area about 4" away from the plug if possible so the plug it self does not heat up as much.
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When removing plugs like this I heat the area around the plug so the metal expands away from the plug i.e. like heating a rim to put on a wagon wheel except backwards. I heat an area about 4" away from the plug if possible so the plug it self does not heat up as much.
Much bigger cheater, 5ft or so.
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