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Cat ID from BSOT

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16 years 4 months ago #18394 by David Parfitt
I was wondering if anyone could identify the model of this Caterpillar that I saw at the BSOT?

Many thanks

David


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16 years 4 months ago #18396 by Deas Plant.
Replied by Deas Plant. on topic ID.
Hi, David.
I think that little jigger is an experimental Holt 2-ton, made prior to the production run starting, and I think it belongs to Tom Madden. It is a pretty rare beast. In fact, I think that may be the only known survivor.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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16 years 4 months ago #18408 by Tom Madden_archive
Replied by Tom Madden_archive on topic Cat ID from BSOT
Deas:

It actually preceeds the 2 ton and the 5 ton and the 10 ton. It is serial number 11679 and the only reference I have found for it is that it is listed as a 1917 experimental, one of 7 made in a progression in Peoria and the only one that has surfaced. I purchased it from the Fred Heidrick collection in 2003.

Tom

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16 years 4 months ago #18411 by Al Letts
Replied by Al Letts on topic Cute Machine, Cudos Tom
I really like the color.

Al

AL
D2-5U-10614
other small excavating pieces as well.

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16 years 4 months ago #18414 by Tom Madden_archive
Replied by Tom Madden_archive on topic Color
Al:

When it was taken down to bare metal, that was the bottom of the 4 colors so that is the color she went back to. The orange on the rad came out of a color Holt book of about the same period.

T

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16 years 4 months ago #18423 by Al Letts
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Hi Tom

Guess it goes back to liking a full box of crayons with 144 colors when I was young.....

3 or 4 shades of Cat yellow seems too limited to me.

Al

AL
D2-5U-10614
other small excavating pieces as well.

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16 years 4 months ago #18497 by David Parfitt
Replied by David Parfitt on topic Cat ID from BSOT
Hi Tom & Deas

Many thanks for the info - certainly an interesting machine! One other crawler that I was unable to identify when I got home was the one below. Was it some kind of gun carrier??

Best wishes

David

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16 years 4 months ago #18499 by Tom Madden_archive
Replied by Tom Madden_archive on topic Cat ID from BSOT
David:

That is another one of the many odd ball type crawlers that I am trying to put together. That is a 1918 Holt 2 1/2 ton, or what is left of it. I brought it up to the show in hopes of finding the correct engine for it and lo and behold a nice gentleman came forward and has the engine that we are trying to mate to the 2 1/2 ton. There were under 100 of these little artillary movers made and I felt it worthwile to try to put it back together.

I bought it from a man by the name of Jim Brown in Mansfield, Ohio after he posted it on a tractor website. Bill Mancus called me and gave me the heads up and Jim and I put the deal together. Jim had acquired the tractor from a collector in Nevada.

The engine originally installed was a Cadilac V8 70 HP engine mated to the 3 speed tranny. Top speed on the 2 1/2 ton was 15 MPH. As with most of the Ton military tractors, the engine was encased in armor and the operator was in the open.

Thanks for asking.

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16 years 4 months ago #18505 by David Parfitt
Replied by David Parfitt on topic Cat ID from BSOT
Thanks again Tom for all this detailed info. That's a real stroke of luck finding the right engine too! Do you know if there are any other examples of the 2 1/2 ton left in preservation?

All the best

David

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16 years 4 months ago #18507 by Tom Madden_archive
Replied by Tom Madden_archive on topic Cat ID from BSOT
David:

I have heard that there may be one left but I have not been able to track it down. Check the email I sent you for more info.

Tom

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