ACMOC
Login
ACMOC
Can I jump a 24V with 12V?

Can I jump a 24V with 12V?

Showing 1 to 10 of 13 results
1
rhartwick
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to rhartwick
Posts: 121
Thank you received: 0
I've got a D2 converted to 24V electric start and no pony, and it is parked with no access to electricity to recharge the batteries (no generator). With 2 12V batteries in series, it seems I should be able to safely jumper from a 12V pickup to either one of the 12V batteries without frying the truck electronics, since the voltage differential on either of the D2 batteries will always only be 12V. I would not use the dozer ground, but the two posts on one of the batteries without a problem. Otherwise, I'll have to remove the batteries for charging, but I was hoping to just get it going with some jumper cables.

Am I correct on this? With modern vehicle electronics, I don't want to risk hurting the pickup trucks electronics with a 24V spurt.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sat, Dec 28, 2019 8:33 PM
bursitis
Offline
Member
Send a private message to bursitis
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,074
Thank you received: 1
the easiest would be to get a surplus 24 volt generator and wire in some slave cables.

https://www.easternsurplus.net/PartDetails/1595/28VDC-Gasoline-Engine-Generator

D46U straight blade,D46U cat angle blade,allis chalmers AD4 grader and Khoering 404 dragline. D4C 40A,D4 2T and scraper.

Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sat, Dec 28, 2019 8:38 PM
rhartwick
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to rhartwick
Posts: 121
Thank you received: 0
Reply to bursitis:
the easiest would be to get a surplus 24 volt generator and wire in some slave cables.

https://www.easternsurplus.net/PartDetails/1595/28VDC-Gasoline-Engine-Generator
bursitis,

Long term, I plan to eventually put a 24V generator or alternator on her. Usually she is parked in a shed with electricity. For the moment though, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't fry anything if I jumpered to just one of the batteries. I realize the other battery would draw down juice, but I just need enough to turn the starter enough to get her going.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sat, Dec 28, 2019 8:42 PM
bursitis
Offline
Member
Send a private message to bursitis
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,074
Thank you received: 1
Reply to rhartwick:
bursitis,

Long term, I plan to eventually put a 24V generator or alternator on her. Usually she is parked in a shed with electricity. For the moment though, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't fry anything if I jumpered to just one of the batteries. I realize the other battery would draw down juice, but I just need enough to turn the starter enough to get her going.
it can be done and i have done it but the results aren't really that good. and i didn't use a modern electronic truck but an old school carb with points and condensor. now i have one of the surplus charging jumping units like the one in the link and starting and charging are a breeze even with an alternator and charging system on the truck.

D46U straight blade,D46U cat angle blade,allis chalmers AD4 grader and Khoering 404 dragline. D4C 40A,D4 2T and scraper.

Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sat, Dec 28, 2019 8:48 PM
seiscat
Offline
Send a private message to seiscat
Posts: 1,319
Thank you received: 0
Reply to rhartwick:
bursitis,

Long term, I plan to eventually put a 24V generator or alternator on her. Usually she is parked in a shed with electricity. For the moment though, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't fry anything if I jumpered to just one of the batteries. I realize the other battery would draw down juice, but I just need enough to turn the starter enough to get her going.
Just hook to the posts of one battery at a time, no need to disconnect the cables. I've done it for years and also with late model trucks. When you hook to only one batteries posts you will only get 12 volts. I ran 12V stereos for years, even cell phones.
Craig
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sat, Dec 28, 2019 8:51 PM
8C 361
Offline
Send a private message to 8C 361
Posts: 725
Thank you received: 0
Reply to seiscat:
Just hook to the posts of one battery at a time, no need to disconnect the cables. I've done it for years and also with late model trucks. When you hook to only one batteries posts you will only get 12 volts. I ran 12V stereos for years, even cell phones.
Craig
Solar panel
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sat, Dec 28, 2019 8:57 PM
kracked1
Offline
Send a private message to kracked1
Posts: 741
Thank you received: 0
Reply to seiscat:
Just hook to the posts of one battery at a time, no need to disconnect the cables. I've done it for years and also with late model trucks. When you hook to only one batteries posts you will only get 12 volts. I ran 12V stereos for years, even cell phones.
Craig
As said above, it can be done. Just DO NOT turn on your master switch, that will send 24v to your truck. Just hook to one and charge and then the other and charge. When sufficiently charged unhook jumpers and turn on master to start. Done this for years with 24v stuff in the pits. I have even used 2 vehicles each hooked to a battery for faster charging. Just don't turn on the master, it will end badly.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sat, Dec 28, 2019 8:59 PM
rhartwick
Topic Author
Offline
Send a private message to rhartwick
Posts: 121
Thank you received: 0
Reply to kracked1:
As said above, it can be done. Just DO NOT turn on your master switch, that will send 24v to your truck. Just hook to one and charge and then the other and charge. When sufficiently charged unhook jumpers and turn on master to start. Done this for years with 24v stuff in the pits. I have even used 2 vehicles each hooked to a battery for faster charging. Just don't turn on the master, it will end badly.
Thanks everyone. I will only hook to one battery at a time to charge it, and not turn on the master switch.
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sat, Dec 28, 2019 9:07 PM
seiscat
Offline
Send a private message to seiscat
Posts: 1,319
Thank you received: 0
Reply to rhartwick:
Thanks everyone. I will only hook to one battery at a time to charge it, and not turn on the master switch.
A 12V battery stays a 12V battery, it does not magically change voltages. Take a volt meter and touch the posts of only one battery and you will read 12 volts(12-14volts charged) even with the 'dozer engine running and a working 24 volt charging system. The disconnect switch on or off will not effect this.
Craig
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sat, Dec 28, 2019 9:22 PM
Cdcompton
Offline
Send a private message to Cdcompton
Posts: 92
Thank you received: 0
Reply to seiscat:
A 12V battery stays a 12V battery, it does not magically change voltages. Take a volt meter and touch the posts of only one battery and you will read 12 volts(12-14volts charged) even with the 'dozer engine running and a working 24 volt charging system. The disconnect switch on or off will not effect this.
Craig
Craig is correct if you go from your truck battery strait to 1 single battery on dozer at a time it will charge that 1 battery then you can take it off and move to the other battery stay post to post on single batteries if in a hurry or trying to "jump" weak batteries get 2 trucks and put 1 on each batteries and you can start. As craig says no the master switch does not have to be off or take any cables off. Good luck
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Dec 29, 2019 1:41 AM
BigAgCat
Offline
Send a private message to BigAgCat
Posts: 171
Thank you received: 0
Reply to Cdcompton:
Craig is correct if you go from your truck battery strait to 1 single battery on dozer at a time it will charge that 1 battery then you can take it off and move to the other battery stay post to post on single batteries if in a hurry or trying to "jump" weak batteries get 2 trucks and put 1 on each batteries and you can start. As craig says no the master switch does not have to be off or take any cables off. Good luck
You could put the two tractor batteries in parallel then hook the jumper cables from the truck battery to the tractor batteries in parallel.

That will charge both batteries evenly.

Then when they are both charged, you hook the batteries back in series to get your 24 volts back.

However, I am not sure how much charge gets put into a battery with a short jump. You will want your truck running while doing the jump otherwise you risk losing the charge to start your truck and you are SOL on both counts unless you have enough charge to start the tractor and the tractor has a generator/alternator for you to be able to jump your truck from the tractor.
Cat D6 5R
Please log in or create an account to join the conversation.
Sun, Dec 29, 2019 2:44 AM
Showing 1 to 10 of 13 results
1
YouTube Video Placeholder

Follow Us on Social Media

Our channel highlights machines from the earliest Holt and Best track-type tractors, equipment from the start of Caterpillar in 1925, up to units built in the mid-1960s.

Upcoming Events

Veerkamp Open House 2025

Chapter Fifteen

| Placerville, CA

Stradsett Park Vintage Rally

Chapter Two

| Stradsett, Nr Downham Market. Norfolk PE33 9HA UK

Chapter 2 The Link Club's AGM

Chapter Two

| Faulkner Farm, West Drove, Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, PE14 7DP, UK
View Calendar
ACMOC

Antique Caterpillar
Machinery Owners Club

1115 Madison St NE # 1117
Salem, OR 97301

[email protected]

Terms & Privacy
Website developed by AdCo

Testimonials

"I also joined a year ago. had been on here a couple of times as a non-member and found the info very helpful so I got a one year subscription (not very expensive at all) to try it out. I really like all the resources on here so I just got a three year. I think its a very small price for what you can get out of this site."
-Jason N

Join Today!