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chriscokid
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So, i am in the process of rebuilding a D2 and i have a question.

How does the fuel pump housing maintain its oil level?
There are some corresponding holes that allow the oil to flow from the pump housing into the transfer pump cavity in the bottom of the fuel tower and then into the rear timing cover where it empties out into the engine oil pan.

The only thing i can figure is that a gasket should block the hole between the fuel tower and rear timing cover?

The pictures below show the holes i am talking about with the white wire running thru them.
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Mon, Oct 21, 2019 9:32 PM
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Wow!

I think you're right.......that must be blocked somehow. I would block it where there is a seal on the drive shaft. If it's at the front case to fuel tower joint then block it there as you said. If there's a seal at the front of the injection pump housing that would make me want to know more.

I think I would want something more secure than just the gasket material.

Looks like an easy way to make a bad mistake.
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Mon, Oct 21, 2019 11:14 PM
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Reply to ccjersey:
Wow!

I think you're right.......that must be blocked somehow. I would block it where there is a seal on the drive shaft. If it's at the front case to fuel tower joint then block it there as you said. If there's a seal at the front of the injection pump housing that would make me want to know more.

I think I would want something more secure than just the gasket material.

Looks like an easy way to make a bad mistake.
That must be a 3J or 5J series.
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Mon, Oct 21, 2019 11:47 PM
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Reply to Rome K/G:
That must be a 3J or 5J series.


You are once again correct- its a 3J series
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Tue, Oct 22, 2019 12:55 AM
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Reply to chriscokid:


You are once again correct- its a 3J series
Hi Team,
if you check the parts book you will see a lip type seal with its lip facing back towards the injection pump.

I stand to be corrected but,
it likely that this lip seal is a static seal as I think it seals on the OD of the front pump camshaft bearing.--oil scrolls on both the Injection Pump Camshaft and the pump end of the Accessory Drive shaft keep the oils in their respective housings.
This seal and the scrolls along with gaskets between the housings do the rest to keep the oils separated.
The Accessory Drive Shaft and the Transfer pump drive etc is lubed by engine oil.

Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Tue, Oct 22, 2019 8:13 AM
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Reply to edb:
Hi Team,
if you check the parts book you will see a lip type seal with its lip facing back towards the injection pump.

I stand to be corrected but,
it likely that this lip seal is a static seal as I think it seals on the OD of the front pump camshaft bearing.--oil scrolls on both the Injection Pump Camshaft and the pump end of the Accessory Drive shaft keep the oils in their respective housings.
This seal and the scrolls along with gaskets between the housings do the rest to keep the oils separated.
The Accessory Drive Shaft and the Transfer pump drive etc is lubed by engine oil.

Cheers,
Eddie B.
[quote="edb"]Hi Team,
if you check the parts book you will see a lip type seal with its lip facing back towards the injection pump.

I stand to be corrected but,
it likely that this lip seal is a static seal as I think it seals on the OD of the front pump camshaft bearing.--oil scrolls on both the Injection Pump Camshaft and the pump end of the Accessory Drive shaft keep the oils in their respective housings.
This seal and the scrolls along with gaskets between the housings do the rest to keep the oils separated.
The Accessory Drive Shaft and the Transfer pump drive etc is lubed by engine oil.

Cheers,
Eddie B.[/quote]

Eddie, you are correct,

we found the small housing that holds the seal, (fell behind some things) and i did not notice it on the parts diagram until further review.

Thank you all for your input!
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Tue, Oct 22, 2019 10:46 PM
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Reply to chriscokid:
[quote="edb"]Hi Team,
if you check the parts book you will see a lip type seal with its lip facing back towards the injection pump.

I stand to be corrected but,
it likely that this lip seal is a static seal as I think it seals on the OD of the front pump camshaft bearing.--oil scrolls on both the Injection Pump Camshaft and the pump end of the Accessory Drive shaft keep the oils in their respective housings.
This seal and the scrolls along with gaskets between the housings do the rest to keep the oils separated.
The Accessory Drive Shaft and the Transfer pump drive etc is lubed by engine oil.

Cheers,
Eddie B.[/quote]

Eddie, you are correct,

we found the small housing that holds the seal, (fell behind some things) and i did not notice it on the parts diagram until further review.

Thank you all for your input!
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So in that arrangement what would be the route of fuel leakage from the infamous fuel gallery seal be?
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Tue, Oct 22, 2019 11:07 PM
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So in that arrangement what would be the route of fuel leakage from the infamous fuel gallery seal be?


i just left the shop, but i will check on that in the am.
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Wed, Oct 23, 2019 4:11 AM
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i just left the shop, but i will check on that in the am.
Hi Om,
whilst looking back in Search for an answer to a no rear fuel gallery plug question I found your query on the leakage path for the rear fuel gallery plug was unanswered.

CCJ answers your query in post #8 of this linked Thread.

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?27501-D4600-Fuel-in-oil&highlight=gallery+plug

Cheers,
Eddie B.
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Wed, Feb 26, 2020 5:22 AM
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Reply to edb:
Hi Om,
whilst looking back in Search for an answer to a no rear fuel gallery plug question I found your query on the leakage path for the rear fuel gallery plug was unanswered.

CCJ answers your query in post #8 of this linked Thread.

http://www.acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?27501-D4600-Fuel-in-oil&highlight=gallery+plug

Cheers,
Eddie B.
Thanks, I got it fixed and failed to report my finding, sorry
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