Crawler Loader Options with PTO

d47u can accept pto so ht4 prolly would

The 955 12Axxxx series based on the U model D4's would accept a PTO. Not sure on later D4's/loaders.
To my knowledge Cat never offered 3-PT linkage, they were always an aftermarket item.

Some of the early JD's like the 40C, 420C, 430Cand 440C were available with 3 point and PTO. But those are pretty small. JD also made the 1010C and 2010C that were available with PTO but I don't know about a 3 point. One of those was considered to be a pretty poor tractor. IH also had the T and TD 4/5 (T=track TD=track diesel) and the TD 340 which were marketed as small crawlers/dozers and crawler loaders for the farm. Oliver also had the OC (Oliver Crawler) series as ag machines. Not sure if they had 3 point but know some had PTO.

That's the good.

The bad is no one is making any track and undercarriage parts for the OC's or IH ones. They sold a TD 340 diesel with factory loader, 3 point and PTO just south of old iron habit couple of years ago. Wasn't bad priced but the undercarriage and rails were shot. On the T/TD 4/5/340 they used the same engines and main clutch as some of the IH small farm tractors. So engine parts are available. Drive line, undercarriage and track? Nothing. Nada. On the OC's? From what I know nothing is available at all. Now as far as the JD? Hit and miss on parts. There is a guy in Fargo ND who has some parts made and he'd also be the one to ask about PTO and 3 point. He runs this site http://jdcrawlers.com/index.html.

The T/TD 4/5/340 were interesting in that they used a system on the steering levers where at first it disengaged the steering clutch then applied the steering brake for that side. Foot clutch and a foot brake. IIRC it was also available with a F&R shuttle shift.

Never seen a 3 point on a Cat. Seen em with PTO's.

Rick

Thanks for the info guys.

Do we have any info on exactly how the 7U would accept a PTO?
Also with the 955? Any specifics? As one of the these would be right up our alley. Good size, similar machine to what we have.
I am not so concerned about the 3PL as we can always fabricate one of these. But the PTO would be good.

Our Dozer is in the middle of some road works so I won't be climbing underneath it anytime soon. But, it does have a suspicious plate at the back of it where one would think a PTO should be...
But nothing in the manual about it.

I also found the Fiat range of Ag Crawlers. A bit smaller, but that is ok. They have both PTO and 3PL but seem to come with a blade more than a bucket.
The John Deeres seem to be pretty rare in AU but I will keep my eye out as these are exactly what we are looking for.

Thanks for the info guys.

Do we have any info on exactly how the 7U would accept a PTO?
Also with the 955? Any specifics? As one of the these would be right up our alley. Good size, similar machine to what we have.
I am not so concerned about the 3PL as we can always fabricate one of these. But the PTO would be good.

Our Dozer is in the middle of some road works so I won't be climbing underneath it anytime soon. But, it does have a suspicious plate at the back of it where one would think a PTO should be...
But nothing in the manual about it.

I also found the Fiat range of Ag Crawlers. A bit smaller, but that is ok. They have both PTO and 3PL but seem to come with a blade more than a bucket.
The John Deeres seem to be pretty rare in AU but I will keep my eye out as these are exactly what we are looking for.

Cat PTO for the 6U/7U if you can find one....

Some of the early JD's like the 40C, 420C, 430Cand 440C were available with 3 point and PTO. But those are pretty small. JD also made the 1010C and 2010C that were available with PTO but I don't know about a 3 point. One of those was considered to be a pretty poor tractor. IH also had the T and TD 4/5 (T=track TD=track diesel) and the TD 340 which were marketed as small crawlers/dozers and crawler loaders for the farm. Oliver also had the OC (Oliver Crawler) series as ag machines. Not sure if they had 3 point but know some had PTO.

That's the good.

The bad is no one is making any track and undercarriage parts for the OC's or IH ones. They sold a TD 340 diesel with factory loader, 3 point and PTO just south of old iron habit couple of years ago. Wasn't bad priced but the undercarriage and rails were shot. On the T/TD 4/5/340 they used the same engines and main clutch as some of the IH small farm tractors. So engine parts are available. Drive line, undercarriage and track? Nothing. Nada. On the OC's? From what I know nothing is available at all. Now as far as the JD? Hit and miss on parts. There is a guy in Fargo ND who has some parts made and he'd also be the one to ask about PTO and 3 point. He runs this site http://jdcrawlers.com/index.html.

The T/TD 4/5/340 were interesting in that they used a system on the steering levers where at first it disengaged the steering clutch then applied the steering brake for that side. Foot clutch and a foot brake. IIRC it was also available with a F&R shuttle shift.

Never seen a 3 point on a Cat. Seen em with PTO's.

Rick

[quote="oldtanker"]Some of the early JD's like the 40C, 420C, 430Cand 440C were available with 3 point and PTO. But those are pretty small. JD also made the 1010C and 2010C that were available with PTO but I don't know about a 3 point. One of those was considered to be a pretty poor tractor. IH also had the T and TD 4/5 (T=track TD=track diesel) and the TD 340 which were marketed as small crawlers/dozers and crawler loaders for the farm. Oliver also had the OC (Oliver Crawler) series as ag machines. Not sure if they had 3 point but know some had PTO.

That's the good.

The bad is no one is making any track and undercarriage parts for the OC's or IH ones. They sold a TD 340 diesel with factory loader, 3 point and PTO just south of old iron habit couple of years ago. Wasn't bad priced but the undercarriage and rails were shot. On the T/TD 4/5/340 they used the same engines and main clutch as some of the IH small farm tractors. So engine parts are available. Drive line, undercarriage and track? Nothing. Nada. On the OC's? From what I know nothing is available at all. Now as far as the JD? Hit and miss on parts. There is a guy in Fargo ND who has some parts made and he'd also be the one to ask about PTO and 3 point. He runs this site http://jdcrawlers.com/index.html.

The T/TD 4/5/340 were interesting in that they used a system on the steering levers where at first it disengaged the steering clutch then applied the steering brake for that side. Foot clutch and a foot brake. IIRC it was also available with a F&R shuttle shift.

Never seen a 3 point on a Cat. Seen em with PTO's.

Rick[/quote]

Thanks for all that Rick. Pretty helpful. I've looked at them all. They all seem rare and more collectors items now. Not many selling down under thats for sure.

It looks like it is not a popular type of machine anymore.

I know there are some new crawler tractors that come with 3PL and PTO but they are not loaders. I am mainly after a loader with the options for PTO. More difficult it seems. I understand a standards tractor does that. But the country I am in is rocky and hilly. Tractors are unstable and I want something with a bit more ballast.

Anyway. Will keep digging for now.

you don't want the 1010 2010 jd run far and fast

here's some pics of pto drive same as winch ?

d47u has a removable plate on the rear 4 bolts pto mount has 7, so drill some holes and tap? or go with 4 ?

rear of tractor ripper mount would make for a sturdy 3 point hitch mount and give hydraulics? would both fit?

I cudda swore I've read OM post different speed pto available and maybe a multi speed unit?