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ironman3406
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Hello friends,

It has been a while since I've posted but found this worth sharing. One of my co-workers sent this document to me, R Angus the Caterpillar dealer in AB before Finning bought them out had this neat snow plow for the front of a scraper. All i have been told is that they could sure throw snow, but had to be careful next to power lines as the force of the flying snow could cause damage to the lines.

Has anyone ever seen one in action or have pictures of it working? My grandfather has told me stories about cleaning out town using a scraper in the late 70's, but they just loaded the snow and hauled it away. This thing is next level.

Enjoy
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 8:32 AM
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I don't think that idea lasted very long as the snow would get sucked right into the air intake screen plug it up and burn the engine up. Saw allot of that happen on wheel loaders and other dozers in the blizzard of 78, our 7E's had the air intakes back towards the inside of the cab and didn't have that trouble.
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 8:52 AM
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that's sweet buddy just think if you had a little dirt in the bole how much push you would have to get throw them tough drifts. wonder what Tim would think of trading in his grader for this? no tire chains needed.
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 8:55 AM
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that's sweet buddy just think if you had a little dirt in the bole how much push you would have to get throw them tough drifts. wonder what Tim would think of trading in his grader for this? no tire chains needed.
I was thinking that too, maybe sand instead so it wouldn't freeze.
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 9:13 AM
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I was thinking that too, maybe sand instead so it wouldn't freeze.
If sand has moisture in it, believe me it will freeze. catskinner
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 9:55 AM
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I was thinking that too, maybe sand instead so it wouldn't freeze.
That is way to cool wish I could have tried one of those in some 6 foot snow drifts lol. One thing though is our 27 G's were a dog on ice and could really get to sliding on our haul roads in the winter so ice would make this snow plow an interesting ride in some cases. Thanks for the pics.
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 9:58 AM
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Reply to D2 Cody:
That is way to cool wish I could have tried one of those in some 6 foot snow drifts lol. One thing though is our 27 G's were a dog on ice and could really get to sliding on our haul roads in the winter so ice would make this snow plow an interesting ride in some cases. Thanks for the pics.
Hi, Rome K/G.
Believe it or not but I have ackshully dug a 45 foot deep hole in FROZEN sand with a long reach Kato 1880 Mark 2 excavator at a place called Tomago about 115 miles North of Sydney, New South Wales, in BEAUTIFUL DowNunda, in an area right on the coast that seldom if ever sees a frost, NEVER snow and the only ice it ever sees on or in the ground is from hail.

Itza long story.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 10:29 AM
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Hi, Rome K/G.
Believe it or not but I have ackshully dug a 45 foot deep hole in FROZEN sand with a long reach Kato 1880 Mark 2 excavator at a place called Tomago about 115 miles North of Sydney, New South Wales, in BEAUTIFUL DowNunda, in an area right on the coast that seldom if ever sees a frost, NEVER snow and the only ice it ever sees on or in the ground is from hail.

Itza long story.

Just my 0.02.
Hmm ok, lol , I was thinking dry sand, maybe salt then, if available.
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 10:47 AM
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Hi, Rome K/G.
Believe it or not but I have ackshully dug a 45 foot deep hole in FROZEN sand with a long reach Kato 1880 Mark 2 excavator at a place called Tomago about 115 miles North of Sydney, New South Wales, in BEAUTIFUL DowNunda, in an area right on the coast that seldom if ever sees a frost, NEVER snow and the only ice it ever sees on or in the ground is from hail.

Itza long story.

Just my 0.02.
[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, Rome K/G.
Believe it or not but I have ackshully dug a 45 foot deep hole in FROZEN sand with a long reach Kato 1880 Mark 2 excavator at a place called Tomago about 115 miles North of Sydney, New South Wales, in BEAUTIFUL DowNunda, in an area right on the coast that seldom if ever sees a frost, NEVER snow and the only ice it ever sees on or in the ground is from hail.

Itza long story.

Just my 0.02.[/quote]

Deas, Are you streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetching it a bit. I hope that was not 45 ft. of frost. Even here is the frozen north we only get about 8 ft. of frost by spring in a real bad winter and then only under the roads where it gets no snow cover. :eek2: :eek2:
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Wed, Dec 19, 2018 7:51 AM
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[quote="Deas Plant."]Hi, Rome K/G.
Believe it or not but I have ackshully dug a 45 foot deep hole in FROZEN sand with a long reach Kato 1880 Mark 2 excavator at a place called Tomago about 115 miles North of Sydney, New South Wales, in BEAUTIFUL DowNunda, in an area right on the coast that seldom if ever sees a frost, NEVER snow and the only ice it ever sees on or in the ground is from hail.

Itza long story.

Just my 0.02.[/quote]

Deas, Are you streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetching it a bit. I hope that was not 45 ft. of frost. Even here is the frozen north we only get about 8 ft. of frost by spring in a real bad winter and then only under the roads where it gets no snow cover. :eek2: :eek2:
Hi, O-I-H.
ZERO stretch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was an excavation in what would normally have been running sand with a fairly fast-flowing water table only about 5 - 6 feet down. It was 'ackshully' about 3/4 of a mile from a fairly large river but with nothing but river sand between the river and the excavation so the river water had free access right through the site.

So???????????????????????????

They brought in TWO freezing brine plants, drove double-walled spears 60 feet down into the sand and pumped the freezing brine solution through them to immobilize the running sand for about 15 feet below and ALL around the excavation - INCLUDING the 'ackshull' excavation area. We then used a continuous miner head attachment on a Kato 1880 mark 2 excavator - 42 tons - adapted to long reach configuration to chew through the frozen sand and loosen it up. Once we had a couple of truckloads loosened up, we would change back to a digging bucket to load it out and start all over again.

We even had to excavate 2" oversize all around to allow for the growth in the ice while they were placing the reinforcing steel and the formwork. It took 2 1/2 weeks to complete. NO sheet piling or other safety measures needed. There was no way that ice wall was going to collapse.

One of the freezing brine plants would have done the job but they brought in the second one right from the start just in case one of them failed. BOTH were running full time.

The excavation was for a new casting pit INSIDE an existing building with an existing heavy duty concrete floor in an alumina refinery. The columns that supported the roof also supported overhead gantry cranes. Any movement of the columns would have meant shutting down the overhead cranes and a repair bill that would have started at around $2 mill. in 1992 prices, hence the freezing of the ground.

See any stretch in that story?????????????????????

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Wed, Dec 19, 2018 8:45 AM
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Reply to D2 Cody:
That is way to cool wish I could have tried one of those in some 6 foot snow drifts lol. One thing though is our 27 G's were a dog on ice and could really get to sliding on our haul roads in the winter so ice would make this snow plow an interesting ride in some cases. Thanks for the pics.


My thought when I saw this was - Looks like it would be kinda hard on the mailboxes!

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